Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethan Mbappé
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
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Doesn't appear to meet WP:FOOTYN. Uhooep (talk) 07:58, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and France. Shellwood (talk) 11:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. I think this is a clear case of WP:TOOSOON. He may turn out to be a notable football player, but as it currently stands this article only exists because of his brother Kylian Mbappe. Merge anything important here onto Kylian's page, and wait until he becomes notable enough to warrant his own article.Spiralwidget (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 13:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - FOOTYN completely irrelevant, what matters is GNG, which is met. Alternatively draftily. GiantSnowman 13:16, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - WP:GNG itself is the overriding notability guide here. No doubt that his brother is a driving force in the coverage on him, but it is considerable coverage nonetheless. Kosack (talk) 15:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - The GNG argument may be undermined by the idea here that notability is not inherited. Uhooep (talk) 15:35, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- ...which means that relatives of famous people are not inherently/automatically notable. What you fail to recognise is the coverage about Kylian. Whether or not he gets the coverage because of his brother is irrelevant. GiantSnowman 15:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Draft - seems likely he will make appearances in the league possibly starting with PSG but not yet for a notable article as he does not pass WP:FOOTBALL unlike some articles I created when they made their first ever appearance. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Kosack. Dr Salvus 20:41, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, but if not, Draft - either one is fine by me. WP:GNG in my opinion is met, which overrules any other notability guideline in this case. However, if some disagree, and if that is the consensus, then I would advise against deletion and would recommend drafting the article, since he is likely to become more prominent in the future than he already is. Paul Vaurie (talk) 03:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - He's played a pro match with PSG, albeit a friendly. To my mind, any kid that is playing for a top flight club at 15 is notable, no matter who his brother is. 2600:1700:E42:A5FF:E5:1257:B383:494E (talk) 21:34, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - coverage in multiple WP:RS including Le Figaro and The Athletic Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:18, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Meets GNG, NFOOTY is not relevant. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 13:30, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - passes GNG. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 15:48, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:34, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.