Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erika Lauren Wasilewski

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The result was keep. Consensus about subject's local coverage addressed by sources which appear to constitute significant coverage. (non-admin closure) I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 18:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Erika Lauren Wasilewski[edit]

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Erika is just a local DJ. She is already detailed on the page for The Real World: DC, which also includes an update on what she does now.

Please Note This article was nominated for deletion by user Ew0sdc (talk). Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to The Real World: D.C.. The sources in the article predominantly focus on her as a person who was on TRW. The sources all come from one set period in time, which was during the airing of the show. A search brought up no coverage from any time period after her appearance on the show. There's no coverage to show that Wasilewski has any notability independent of TRW or that her role on the Alan Cox Show is so notable that it'd merit her being redirected there as opposed to TRW:DC.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:48, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notability is permanent. If we shifted time back to when she was on TRW, we would have said that there are sources that provide us with a basic biographical sketch and that she passes WP:GNG.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - Being a cast member of 1 season of a reality tv series is not inherently notable. Routine pop culture coverage on the likes of HuffPo's College section, EW's Pop Watch, TMZ, etc...coverage that no doubt exists for all the cast members from all seasons...do not contribute significantly toward satisfying the notability guidelines. Tarc (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - Erika is not a "DJ". DJs are mostly voice-tracked and have limited on-air time; Erika began as a phone screener but her role has grown to "co-host" on a highly rated talk show (see coverage in Talkers article published two full years after TRWDC: "Alan Cox Talk Show Rocks Cleveland on WMMS-FM"). Secondly, the issue isn't whether there are sufficient sources in the article itself, but whether there is sufficient coverage of the subject (there is). Beyond TRWDC and "Pop Watch"-type media, coverage ranges from controversy surrounding Erika's fake cancer claim, to her involvement in Chicago and Cleveland area bands, to her role on The Alan Cox Show at WMMS, and more recently, to her recurring role as guest host on local daytime TV talk show (Time Out Chicago, The Huffington Post, Metromix Washington, D.C., AllAccess.com, FMQB, Cleveland Magazine, Metromix Cleveland, Cleveland.com/The Plain Dealer, Cleveland Scene, WKYC.com, etc.) WP:GNG is met. Does the article need more work? Yes, but notability is not based on the quality of a subject's article at any one time. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 20:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect (Super-duper-strong) -I question Levdr1lostpassword's ability to judge the notability of Wasilewski accurately as nearly all their edits has been based around Cleveland, Ohio, or Cleveland-based media entities and personalities. Erika is notable on the larger scale of Wikipedia, and making an occasional appearance at a Cleveland bar does not make her notable. The status update provided in the Real World D.C. Wiki article is more than sufficient to cover Wasilewski. She is not a DJ, she is a afternoon drive talk show sidekick in a small market. Sorry. Nothing mentioned above comes close to contribute significantly toward satisfying the notability guidelines. Ew0sdc (talk) 16:38, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Yes, I am a member of WikiProject Cleveland. I am also a member of WikiProject Radio Stations. I suggest all those following this discussion review Category:American radio personalities by city before broadly dismissing the notability of local radio personalities. Also, thank you, Ew0sdc, for correcting your own previous statement that "Erika is... a local DJ" (as she is not). And for what it's worth, I've noticed Ew0sdc seems to concentrate primarily on MTV reality shows — though I still welcome his/her input to this debate. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 04:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Please Note Although it should be clear to anyone reviewing this discussion, Ew0sdc ("super-duper-strong") is the same editor who nominated this article for deletion. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 04:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC) Placed note under unsigned nomination. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 09:28, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 20:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I'm inclined to think that if the original nominator felt so strongly ("super-duper") about the need for a redirect (rather than deletion) then perhaps this should have initially been raised on the article's talk page first. Nonetheless, having considering the sources provided above, I'm inclined to think the subject passes WP:GNG. I would caution the use of some of those sources (like the one from the Huff Post which seems to have been a non-oversighted "student contribution" and so might fall under WP:USERG and the couple that are blogs) but on balance there's a few there which, in my opinion, constitute enough significant coverage to justify the view that the subject meets notability requirements. The Cleveland-based ones, especially, provide plenty of "significant coverage", with enough non-Cleveland coverage to avoid WP:LOCALFAME arguments. Stalwart111 (talk) 02:36, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - Very clearly a WP:LOCALFAME issue. Articles cited are mostly about her days on the TV show, or mention her being hired for the small radio gig as an update to her reality days. Not significant. Most former cast members of the series do not seem to have their own pages unless they have made it on the national level. Should be speedy deleted. User: Heavy2fall3 (talk) (UTC)

Comment Above user created account yesterday (Oct. 16). No user page or talk page. Only two edits unrelated to this discussion, both of which are MTV-related. Nominator has also concentrated on MTV-related content. Surprisingly knowledgeable about WP policy. Certainly, this could be an anonymous IP user who just recently registered. Then again it may not. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 06:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Nominator, user Ew0sdc, has not edited since Oct. 6. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 06:16, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update Nominator, user Ew0sdc, began editing again on Oct. 18, and this edit directly relates to this discussion. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 17:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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