Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Rivera

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The result was delete‎. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Rivera

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This is a tough one. A short but strong article for this tyro chef, but when you try and peel back the layers, you quickly find a worrying lack of substance. Source 1 and 3 are interviews. Source 2, the writer asked Rivera a question and he directed the writer to another cook. Source 4, Seattle Mag, is a review-cum-interview that posits the question, "Is Rivera really as great at cooking as he is at marketing himself on social media?" - and we start to get to the heart of the issue right there, IMHO. Source 5 is a podcast interview as is source 6, source 7 (American University Radio), source 9, source 10 and source 11 (the best of 'em, the San Francisco Chronicle podcast features the classic line, in response to the question, what's your deal, "I think, like, I've been asked that for years. Forever now. I'm Eric. I am kind of a chef thing. I don't really know. I mean, honestly, like, I'm kind of in a weird spot right now or I'm evolving kind of into a whole new place for chef restaurant industry thing."

What we have, in summary, is boss-level self-promotion, a lot of podcasts and interviews and oddly enough a failure of WP:GNG. There's no independent SIGCOV at all here. WP:BEFORE gets us some routine 'opening' announcements, but basically we're - if anything - WP:TOOSOON. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Washington. Shellwood (talk) 09:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I seem to find at least three chefs with this name (and hits for a murderer as well), [1], [2] and [3], each with different hairstyles. One ala Bob Ross, one bald and one in between. I'm going to have to examine each one a bit closer. Oaktree b (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I found the murderer, too. A horrible conflation of roles, mind: "I could murder a bacon buttie"... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A non-notable individual with no significant coverage. Also, this is a paid work from Upwork and the creator of this article was also hired to remove the paid tag from another page which can be seen in their contributions. 113.193.45.126 (talk) 05:42, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As it happens, I'm very uncomfortable with paid editing per se. And I cannot help but recognize the awful aroma of promotion in the menu. But, after all is said and done, notability trumps everything. And the plethora of sources supporting our subject's notability decide the issue. Seattle magazine, San Francisco Chronicle, Food & Wine: these are not trifles. -The Gnome (talk) 14:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Take a closer look at the nomination? Seattle Mag is an interview, San Francisco Chronicle is a podcast, not an independent RS. I saw what you did with the trifles reference, but the sourcing here is definitely fishy. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe (talk) 13:47, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:29, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. I'd rather not close this discussion as No consensus which means we need a little more participation here. If any editors who frequent AFD discussions cruise by this one, please look over the article, sources and weigh in.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:42, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I concur with the nominator, this is either TOOSOON, or will never be enough. Fails SIGCOV on all of the sources. UtherSRG (talk) 10:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Tried to find decent sourcing, there just isn't enough to build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.