Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enemy of the people

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was snowball keep. Misguided nomination. `'Míkka >t 20:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy of the people[edit]

Unencyclopedic entry created explicitly as anti-communist propaganda, since it has been decided that references to other similar uses of the phrase are not appropriate for the article. This material is better worked into Soviet Union or communism article. SmashTheState (talk) 02:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE - Merge this with propaganda or communism or some other article.MiltonP Ottawa (talk) 02:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no citations, reads like an essay. Dlabtot (talk) 03:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whoa, whoa. The term has some pedigree (Ibsen picked it for a reason) apart from Soviet style communism. It is hardly propoganda: what is in the article right now reflects pretty well received history on the Soviet Union under Stalin and Lenin. Also, we delete stuff if it violates NOT/NPOV/V/NOR or can't meet N. The wording can be fixed. Protonk (talk) 04:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sources Scholar. Books. Mead is kind of an authority. Protonk (talk) 04:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article needs a rewrite. Protonk (talk) 04:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article can be improved but it's certainly a notable term which was used against dissenters in communist societies. Saying it was created as 'anti communist propaganda' is hardly assuming good faith either. Here is an article from today's New York Times which explicitly uses the term regarding China's treatment of Falun Gong. [1]. I note, in passing that 'Smashthestate' might have a bit of an axe to grind here himself, as his user page notes only that "This Fellow Worker is a proud member of the Industrial Workers of the World." Nick mallory (talk) 04:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It is also kind of a party foul to not notify the principle creator of the article. I know he/she probably knows but it is a pleasant gesture. I have gone ahead and place a notification message. Protonk (talk) 04:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep used by Ancient Rome. 70.51.8.56 (talk) 05:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep you have got to be kidding me Sceptre ^(talk) 10:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to communism. It would be better there. Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 12:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a highly notable, long established concept and nominate User:SmashTheState to Wikipedia:Enemies of the people in lieu of a trout. Skomorokh 13:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep though it needs expansion.Dbrodbeck (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - but needs revision to cover all uses of the phrase (vide Ibsen), not merely the Leninist ones. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.