Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ence (esports)

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The result was keep. ✗plicit 07:25, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Ence (esports)

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The article relies on non-notable announcements/press-releases, and very much on its website. Fails to meet WP:NCORP Bash7oven (talk) 07:16, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

also seems to be a cross-wiki spam Bash7oven (talk) 07:18, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Finland. ––FormalDude talk 07:41, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep. Having gone through the article, I disagree with the description of the sources. While there's certainly press releases, blog posts and the odd Twitter reference in there, there's definitely enough non-trivial news coverage to satisfy WP:GNG as well: ESPN ("ENCE the most unlikely of IEM Katowice finalists"), Ilta-Sanomat ("ENCEn menestys synnytti ennätyksiä Veikkauksella ja DNA:lla – myös IS:ssä ja Ylellä kovia lukuja", "Suomalaisen pelijoukkueen fanilaulusta tuli jättihitti – Kauppatorillakin kuvattua musavideota katsottu yli 9 miljoonaa kertaa", "Aikakausi päättyy – ENCEn CS-joukkueessa ei pelaa yhtään suomalaista", "ENCE perustaa CS-akatemian: Hakee suomalaisia ja maksaa palkkaa", "ENCE teki kovan kaappauksen – kiinnitti maailmanmestarin"). There are also shorter pieces or more trivial content, which helps build the article but isn't worth pointing out here. //Julle (talk) 11:14, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep (as creator) -- The Video Game Wikiproject considers Dot Esports, The Esports Observer, Red Bull, and Upcomer to be reliable. Add in ESPN and Ilta-Sanomat, the second biggest newspaper in Finland, and there are ~35 reliable sources, many of which discuss the organization in quite some detail. And I could find a lot more because news orgs in Finland have entire esport beats essentially dedicated to covering ENCE. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:00, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep per Julle's and Aylo's analysis. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 14:50, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep Plenty of independent indepth coverage in reliable sources, esp. Finnish newspapers already in the article. Plenty further coverage that is not currently cited in the article, e.g. (paywalled) articles in Helsingin Sanomat and on the YLE website. Also bunch of on-TV coverage by YLE, including a 26 minute TV special. See [1] for more YLE coverage. These go far beyond announcements/press-releases. -Ljleppan (talk) 08:50, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
• Keep - per above, article seems to pass WP:GNG. Videogameplayer99 (talk)

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