Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Germany in Palestine

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. Consensus is for all of the artcles to be deleted. Of note is that the Embassy of Portugal in Palestine article was added very late in the discussion, but this article has the same template-like formatting and very similar information as the other articles listed in this discussion. As such, it makes sense to also delete this article at this time as well, rather than relisting the discussion. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Germany in Palestine[edit]

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Poorly sourced to primary sources and containing numerous factual errors. This is not an embassy, but rather a representative office. I'm nominating several other "embassies" with similar text (and the same purported founding date) with similar sourcing and content issues Icewhiz (talk) 13:41, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge These articles do not add anything that cannot be found in or added to List of diplomatic missions in Palestine, without prejudice to recreate if expanded. Note the user has recently begun creating all of these since I nominated his all red template for deletion Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 March 25#Template:Diplomatic missions in Palestine. - Galatz ^Talk 14:21, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Based on the below added information these should all just be deleted. - Galatz ^Talk 13:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
~~Merge~~ A bunch of boilerplate entries of suspect content: these aren't "embassies" and they're not run by "ambassadors". --Calton | Talk 17:08, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per a closer look. --Calton | Talk 13:25, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. I don't see what content there is to merge as most stuff in these stubs is incorrect and very poorly referenced at that. --Randykitty (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all. Poorly sourced with dubious sources, they aren't embassies, and it's unlikely there will ever be enough notability to keep them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment At first glance it seems that these articles are translations from the French Wikipedia. ~~Since I think the articles may be expanded and improved, I'm inclined to ask for a merge.~~--Jamez42 (talk) 19:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. Normally I'd prefer to preserve the content, but given the possibility that the information is incorrect and that a redirect for each article is both mislabelling and impractical, I vote for deletion.--Jamez42 (talk) 01:00, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thee subject certainly is notable, but given the current state of these stubs I think that WP:TNT applies. Instead of improving, starting from scratch may be a lot easier... --Randykitty (talk) 20:06, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the frwiki entries were created by the same creator, in the past month - and they seem to contain the same factually inaccurate material (frankly - I see this as rising up to WP:HOAX). What is telling here is the lack of an arwiki entry.Icewhiz (talk) 06:13, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Icewhiz, thank you for your analysis. I've left a note at what appears to be the French equivalent to WP:ANI, explaining the situation (with a pointer to this discussion) and asking that they review the French articles for the same problems. Note that the creator's already been indefinitely blocked here. Nyttend (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. The Russian one had several hoaxes (despite claims, the sources did not provide beginning year, year of recognition, or sequence of ambassadors), and since some of the others make identical claims and use the same picture as the image for all of them (File:Elbirah1.JPG is used in five articles, and I removed it from Russia), they cannot be trusted. The editor who started them should have noticed that identical content was ending up in multiple places. Nyttend (talk) 22:14, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I already deleted the Portuguese article because it was word-for-word identical with the German article. Here, for example, is the entire content (minus citations) of the "History" section:
  In 1988, Germany officially recognized the State of Palestine.
  
  This embassy was then opened in January 1989 in Ramallah.
  
  It is located at the address with No. 13, Berlin Street, P.O. Box 25166, in Al-Bireh, Postcode 97300.
  
  Several ambassadors then succeeded one another in this diplomatic representation of Germany in Palestine
  This isn't acceptable. Nyttend (talk) 00:04, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - One of the many factual errors in all of these duplicates is the "embassy" (all of them actually representative office or other lesser mission) being founded in 1989. Most, if not all, of these were opened following the Oslo accords in the mid 90s and onwards. There was no PA in Ramallah in 1989 - the PLO was still in Tunis, the Intifada was going on, and Israel was in all these cities. Even the boiler-plate copy-pasted info has several red flags. This is besides the question of whether every embassy and diplomatic mission is notable standalone.Icewhiz (talk) 04:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all These articles are clearly wrong headed at best, and add nothing of value compared to the List of diplomatic missions in Palestine given the obvious factual errors noted above. Nick-D (talk) 10:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of diplomatic missions of Palestine. Thanks. --Garam (talk) 13:10, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/redirect. Clearly filled with false information, such as claiming formal recognition of Palestine by various countries. BegbertBiggs (talk) 19:36, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - clearly a massive falsification.GreyShark (dibra) 14:32, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete all~~ - per HOAX concerns and false information therein. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 02:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete all - G3 per a closer look. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 20:35, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - They are Representative Offices not Diplomatic Missions.--31.173.188.190 (talk) 04:47, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all as I am not sure if the information is correct. I am generally fond of preserving information and I ideally I would suggested a merge. However the information cannot be verified and the images look very dubious to me. For example, the description says an apartment block in Ramallah and yet it is used in an article about the embassy. Keeping these can potentially hurt the accuracy of Wikipedia.--DreamLinker (talk)
Comment - added the Portuguese article to the bundle. RetiredDuke (talk) 18:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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