Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elvis Andrus
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. —— RyanLupin • (talk) 15:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Elvis Andrus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Non-notable baseball player yet to reach the majors. Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:10, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. ——Wknight94 (talk) 14:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: He's been involved with the 2008 All-Star Futures Game. He passes WP:ATHLETE, and furthermore, he passes Wikipedia:WikiProject_Baseball#Players by fulfilling the secondary sources criteria set in the guideline. —Borgardetalk 14:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I disagree that he meets WP:ATHLETE because he has not appeared in a Major League Baseball game. He hasn't progressed past double A ball and isn't on the Rangers' 40 man roster, so it's not likely to be in a MLB game anytime soon. If by secondary sources you mean his one mention in Baseball America, that isn't much to establish notability. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Doing a quick Google, Google news search you will find articles specifically devoted to him. This article needs to be improved, not deleted. —Borgardetalk 05:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I disagree that he meets WP:ATHLETE because he has not appeared in a Major League Baseball game. He hasn't progressed past double A ball and isn't on the Rangers' 40 man roster, so it's not likely to be in a MLB game anytime soon. If by secondary sources you mean his one mention in Baseball America, that isn't much to establish notability. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep He certainly meets the criteria of WP:ATHLETE, as he has competed in a fully-professional league. It doesn't say that he has to have played in the majors - AA is fully-professional too. As for secondary sources, they may not be in the article currently, but I can't believe they'll be hard to find. This should have been tagged for improvement, not brought to Afd. Mlaffs (talk) 03:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Passes WP:ATHLETE. The rule says it has to be a professional league, not the professional league. The distinction is between "professional" (accepted) or "amateur" (not accepted except in rare cases). Professional implies that the full time career for the players is as players for the Rangers (which it fairly obviously is), Amateur would mean that they work five days flipping burgers and play baseball every saturday. Ironholds 08:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WeakKeep, since notability seems to be established, albeit barely. Will full keep if the all-star futures mention can be sourced. Wizardman 15:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ask, and ye shall receive. Source has been added. Mlaffs (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Full keep then. Wizardman 01:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.