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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Keeper | 76 15:45, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Subject does not appear to meet notability guidelines. Beach drifter (talk) 04:54, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Google News Archives shows significant coverage in Business Week and the Chicago Sun-Times. That being said, this article needs some work. Deletion is not the solution. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:47, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The news articles are only about his success in leaving a bad part of Brooklyn at a young age to go on to a promising career. The article fails to establish that any of his ventures are notable enough for inclusion, and an autobiography is the primary source for many of the claims. Of the reaming sources one is a blog and does not even support the assertion in the article, one is a dead link, two make no mention of him, and one is in Japanese. The Tokyo Times appear to be a small time, online only publication and as "publisher" that means simply posting stories to the website. The only reason I would support this person for inclusion is if it can be established that his writings for Sankei Shimbun have gained significant attention. Beach drifter (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep There are probably a dozen mentions of FON currently in Google news and many of them refer to FON as the worlds largest wireless network. Wikipedia states on notability "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." are Wired, Boston Globe, Businessweek and Techworld/IDG not reliable secondary sources? The Washington Post is a independent news publication that only has print in the Washington DC area. By your definition its a small time independent "mostly" online news publication in the USA. Does that make it less significant? Having sued the Japanese government for freedom of speech and received coverage for that in several independent publications also appears to be significant — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwaiwey (talk • contribs) 05:31, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the sources for this article are not reliable secondary sources. The claim that Nuwere co-founded FON is not supported in the sources. The claim that FON is the largest Wi-Fi community is from a press release. Many of the other sources are not good sources and do not mention Nuwere anyways. I agree that suing the Japanese Govt might be notable, if sources can be found to show that it was a major event with coverage. In that case, that should be the focus of the article. Beach drifter (talk) 15:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Also if you have sources from the Boston Globe and Wired PLEASE include them that would be very helpful. Beach drifter (talk) 15:52, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the sources for this article are not reliable secondary sources. The claim that Nuwere co-founded FON is not supported in the sources. The claim that FON is the largest Wi-Fi community is from a press release. Many of the other sources are not good sources and do not mention Nuwere anyways. I agree that suing the Japanese Govt might be notable, if sources can be found to show that it was a major event with coverage. In that case, that should be the focus of the article. Beach drifter (talk) 15:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- delete An IT bod and journalist, but none of the mentions I've seen lift any of this above the day job level. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:29, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Sources are about organizations and not subject and WP:NOTINHERIT DavidTTTaylor (talk) 14:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Please clarify which sources? Are you talking about FON? His book covered in wired? His security company covered in business week? Not all sources are about the organizations. There are sources that reference FON as a business, sources that quote him as the Country Manager, perhaps those are week? But what about the other sources referring to him as a entrepreneur, company founder or security specialist? (wired/IDG/businessweek) ? This person meets the definition of WP:notability based on Significant coverage from reliable sources there are at least three sources profiling the AUTHOR and things he has done of significance. Additionally notability is not temporary and while the subject hasn't received much coverage in USA media recently, there are articles that cover him in Japanese media based that can not be sourced for this English entry
Hwaiwey (talk) 09:53, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually Wikipedia Notability guidelines are a little more involved than that. Please look at the guidelines to see the specific things mentioned, such as making a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record, receiving a well-known and significant award or honor, originating a significant new concept, theory or technique, being widely cited by peers and successors, etc. Being mentioned in sources is not enough. While I agree that the subject is present in some sources, I dispute that it is significant coverage. Beach drifter (talk) 00:40, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong| spout _ 23:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for failing WP:AUTHOR and WP:BOOK. Qworty (talk) 06:16, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep He does pass WP:AUTHOR. His book, published by a major publisher, is in over 450 WorldCat libraries and has been translated into Japanese. But what is definitive is that he is included in the major encyclopedia Contemporary Authors in vol. 216. That sort of coverage in the appropriate major reference source is accepted proof of notability in all areas. I note that this reference source is included in Gale's Literature Reference Center , available (remotely) to anyone with a library card from many major libraries, and essentially all college libraries. But that a bio is in there can be verified by anyone at all by searching for the name in WorldCat. I'm adding the reference. DGG ( talk ) 02:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you elaborate on exactly which part of WP:AUTHOR he meets? I don't see how being listed in "Contemporary Authors Volume 216" meets what I am reading there. Beach drifter (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.