Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Egon Olsen
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Result Nomination Withdrawn (non-admin closure).--Magioladitis (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Egon Olsen[edit]
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This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Olsen Gang. I can find sources to establish notability but since they would all be in Danish and most likely not viewable for free outside of Denmark that would be a waste of time better spent sourcing the Olsen Gang article (which isn't much better right now). I agree that the article is mostly OR. EconomicsGuy (talk) 18:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Keep as all issues seem to have been resolved now and I found out that English language sources are preferred if available but not required if they are otherwise reliable sources. EconomicsGuy (talk) 15:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mergeinto a new Characters section in Olsen Gang, but not for lack of notability but because sources are hard to come by for pre-internet fiction to support a spinout at this time. This character is extremely widely known in former East Germany (think Homer Simpson) and inherits some cult status from its film series. Ove Sprogøe (the actor) received one or two Bodil Awards for this role. [1] shows scans of old East German newspapers and magazines for the films, the actor and the character (unfortunately too tiny to read). Egon received four drive-by mentions in reliable German online media in the last month: in de:Mitteldeutsche Zeitung[2] in an article about school systems, in die tageszeitung[3] about political reforms, in linke-bildung-kultur.de [4] about political misuse, and a TV magazine of Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk[5]. I see no apparent OR in the article. – sgeureka t•c 19:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Changed to Keep. I've added everything I could find (and understand) from Google News. It looks pretty decent now (although it's overwhelmingly Eastern-Germany/Danish focused now, sorry), and I may just have found a new FA-worthy project that would interest me big time. – sgeureka t•c 15:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep. This is Arve Opsahl's legendary character, indeed this obituary of Opsahl is titled "All Norway's Egon Olsen." Also contained in the same article is some "real life" information, e.g. that Carsten Byhring was considered for the role, and that Opsahl was given a leave from hospital to play in the last (senior) Olsenbanden movie. The basic of the plot surrounding Egon, in particular, the running gag about him always winding up in prison while the rest of the gang escapes, is also covered in that article. This article provides more "real-world" notability; a prison road in Denmark was apparently named after Egon Olsen. More notability: An entire restaurant chain in Norway is named after this character [6]. To sum up, contrary to the nomination (which has been copy-pasted on several AFD's within the space of a few minutes), there is notability independent of the series (restaurant) and there are third-party sources. Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. After Sgeureka's edits, I think the notability is rather clear. Nicely done. Just for the record, after all that talk about how famous he is in the former East Germany and in Norway, I would like to add that he is also very well known in Denmark. Hemmingsen 18:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Withdraw - It seems fine now. TTN (talk) 18:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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