Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EFAF Atlantic Cup

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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 01:11, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

EFAF Atlantic Cup[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:GNG, as all sources I can find are primary (and almost all come from the Irish side of things), do not classify as significant coverage, or are of dubious reliability. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 08:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:55, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Seems similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Atlantic Cup (football), same nominator, where consensus was that coverage is adequate, and which was closed as "Keep". --do ncr am 11:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Non-notable football tournament that fails WP:GNG JMHamo (talk) 13:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Since people seem to constantly be missing this, this is an American Football tournament, not an association football tournament, so it does not fall under WP:FOOTBALL's remit, but WP:WikiProject American football instead. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 14:17, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, WikiProject American Football notified of this discussion, just now, by me. --do ncr am 23:14, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So what? As far as I know, there is no separate notability guideline established for tournaments in either sport. The AFD that I mentioned included discussion about whether it met wp:GNG, only. And, here too, I expect there has been television coverage of the games, and numerous news articles, in English and perhaps also in other languages. I don't see evidence here of anyone really searching, and perhaps mere Google and Google news searching is not enough. In the other AFD, participants did some additional searching. I really rather presume that there has been plenty of news coverage of the games, so that we can safely assume it is a notable tournament series. --do ncr am 00:29, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doncram, that wasn't aimed at you specifically. It was intended so that no one else added it to the WikiProject Football deletion list. And you haven't presented anything on this series anyway, and I'm doubting if you did any searching (whilst ironically claiming that no-one else here did - well, I did look for things, and didn't find anything properly independent that was obviously a RS and in-depth) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:34, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, i just added some material and references, from a couple newspaper sources, to the article. Fair enough to call on me to add something, now done. Thanks for replying, i wasn't sure if you were aiming at me or not. I stand with Keep vote, as I do believe there exists plenty of news coverage of these tournaments. One of the sources describes the cup as "the official western European amateur football crown", besides mentioning that the Belfast Trojans team "benefited greatly from the presence of former NFL Europe lineman Jeroen Egge who, along with the few Americans involved, has greatly boosted the knowledge and skills of those from other sporting backgrounds." From what I've read about these leagues, it seems that teams are limited to 2 or 3 Americans, and the core members are from the country of the team. Seems like fun, if i were in Ireland i might be a fan. --do ncr am 01:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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