Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dylan Rieder

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The result was keep. Cavarrone 09:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dylan Rieder[edit]

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Delete as non-notable. I did not want to AFD this article so soon after this young man's tragic death but as another established editor removed the notability tag without making any significant changes or convincingly proving the case, I had no choice. Quis separabit? 02:56, 15 October 2016 (UTC) Comment[reply]

Keep - Just the X games stuff makes him notable, as well there are his film appearances and widely seen modeling work-- That is quite a guilt trip to lay down, there is intense media coverage of his death and videos of the modeling shoots have in the vicinity of 1,000,000 views-- So it is not my fault you put a tag there , you nominated it, I did not. The tag could have been put back on and not being considered for deletion. Not being considered notable on wikipedia could never be as tragic as loosing your life in the way he did. I find you usually to be very kind but that summation seems to me to be unfair.Masterknighted (talk) 03:09, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was not going to get into an edit war. There are few notable skateboarders I can think of, besides Tony Hawk/Tony Hawke, so we may as well come to a conclusion. You could have left the notability tag, as well. Quis separabit? 12:57, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - So there it is you are prejudiced against the case to be made as per the notability of prominent skateboard athletes. And that doesn't make any sense because at the 2020 Summer Olympic Games in Tokyo, skateboarding premieres as an Olympic sport - Skateboarding at the 2020 Summer Olympics. Masterknighted (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As far as skateboarding goes, Rieder was for sure notable. He's got numerous parts in huge videos and won major competitions, modeling aside. In my opinion this would be the same as deleting a 1980s pro-NFL quarterback who won a superbowl due to non-notability in the present. There's plenty of external sources on Rieder (google news results in 740 articles currently) so I vote keep. Brandoid (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Dylan Rieder may have died relatively young but his career as a skater has spanned over a decade, with many video parts for important and certainly notable companies. Additionally, while he is certainly not as notable as skating greats such as Hawk or Koston, a simple google trends search shows that over the past 6 years Rieder has consistently been referenced more or as often then other notable skaters that have pages already. some examples are Mike Carroll, Rick Howard, and Torey Pudwill. Rieder has also won awards that etablish him as someone who will be remembered in the industry for his talent and what he achieved with it. His Transworld video part of the year award is a good example of this. This is an award given by a magazine. A print magazine that has been in publication for 33 years. That qualifies as mainstream media.

Delete - I agree that he is not notable. X Games may, or may not, fulfill required notability for a sportsperson, but however the notability cannot be established without references that are not trivial or passing mentions. A lot of the death news are just passing mentions too. I have an impression that Rieder was mostly known in social media rather than in the mainstream media. He is not notable simply because Ozzy Osbourne, Lil Wayne or other high profile individuals have tweeted about his death. Notability is not inherited. His modeling work does not make him notable, nor does the fact that he worked as an actor. WP:SPORTCRIT, WP:NMODEL. Ceosad (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - You're not the arbiter of what makes someone notable, therefore your opinion doesn't matter here. Dylan Rieder having a page here already is proof of his notability; otherwise why would you have come here? Your argument is self-defeating and pointless, and your ignorance about topics such as Dylan Rieder are the best reason to keep this article. Also, if you take a look at this page, you're already outvoted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.49.202.129 (talk) 09:47, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Multiple mainstream sources mentioned in other comments and votes indicate notability. MordeKyle (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - His wiki page has 114,000 visits in one day, I hardly think that constitutes some one who is not notable. 16:32, 15 October 2016 (UTC)Masterknighted (talk) Comment - is CNN notable ? [1] or People [2] GQ [3]. Masterknighted (talk) 16:41, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I also agree he is notable. I just read a lot about Dylan Rieder, the news about his death and as a Professional Skateboarder and Fashion Model. The stuff about his life and accomplishments in the mainstream seem to make the decision to keep his wiki page a no brainier and MANY people seem to view his info on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.228.78.0 (talk) 19:20, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:05, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per WP:GNG. plenty of good sourcing. simply because a person dies does not make him non-notable. BabbaQ (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep In my opinion Dylan Rieder got a massive influence how skateboarding has changed including the tricks, the style of the tricks and even how skaters dress now. That he hadn´t competed in the important big competition doesn´t make him less influencing for skateboarding.

The article was written way before his death, when nobody knew about the illness.

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