Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DreamFunded

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ansh 666 05:34, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DreamFunded

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This page is just an ad for an organization. Runs afoul of WP:PROMO, WP:COI and WP:TOOMANYREFS. Brian-armstrong (talk) 04:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Brian-armstrong (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Brian-armstrong (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page because it appears to have been edited by the same COI entity and is related to this organization.

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Delete agree that both articles are entirely promotional. Rockypedia (talk) 13:28, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - promotional. RileyBugz ^会話 _投稿記録 02:40, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - seems to me that Manny Fernandez is quite a notable Latino businessman. He has appeared on many television shows and is referenced in numerous third party publications - Inc, Fox News, CNBC, Forbes, Fortune, Entrepreneur. Just being an investor “Shark” on a major TV show (CNBC) is an indication that he is very successful and notable. If the page is too promotional or has too many references, why can’t it be rewritten and some of the references deleted? Perhaps the two pages could be merged. 97.68.160.118 (talk) 23:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:11, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both -- entirely promotional with WP:SPIP sourcing. Promo content includes: "Fernandez has also often appeared as a keynote speaker!" Etc. Wikipedia is not a free means of promotion or is here to help subjects book speaking gigs. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:52, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both fail the GNG. I again wish to disagree with others, that usually the state of the article has little bearing on deletion. Notability of the subject does. z'L3X1 (distænt write) 02:36, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nominator. MassiveYR ♠ 14:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Seems to fail general notability as well as WP:PROMO and WP:GNG per above. I agree with WP:SPIP sourcing as consideration for delete, if only because heavy reliance on promotional sources suggests lack of notability verifiable in independent sources. I also agree with delete on the affiliated Manny Ramirez page for the same reason. Shelbystripes (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Keep - meets notability. Featured in numerous independent, reliable sources: "Forbes, Inc. Magazine, CNBC, Squawk Box, TechCrunch, Fortune, Entrepreneur Magazine, Fast Company, Fox News, Wall Street Journal, ABC and others.” Fernandez has numerous television appearances on major US network TV shows. Is he being subjected to greater scrutiny because he is Latino? 23.82.234.36 (talk) 18:09, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just to use one of your examples, the Forbes articles cited are not about either subject. The cited articles just briefly mention Dreamfunded. That is not sufficient to meet notability requirements, as the citation would require substantive coverage about the subject. Brian-armstrong (talk) 19:36, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These entire articles are about Fernandez and DreamFunded: (among others)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/giovannirodriguez/2016/07/17/a-latino-angel-wants-to-help-you-invest-in-tech-startups/#6909a09955e5

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/28/our-american-dream-start-up-guru-manny-fernandez-connects-people-to-money.html

These national TV shows feature him prominently:

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2016/02/12/providing-reasonable-prices-for-investors-dreamfunded-ceo.html

https://www.cnbc.com/make-me-a-millionaire-inventor/

He is also featured prominently in several Crowdfund Insider articles. This is an important industry publication.

And, what about the awards and recognitions he has received? These look like important awards.

Do we consider someone who has achieved significant notability within an industry? Looks like he is very well known as an expert in crowdfunding and angel investing. 23.82.234.36 (talk) 21:09, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem I see with these articles is that they are almost purely promotional. Wikipedia is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a means of advertising. If there are substantial, notable events regarding these subjects, they don't seem to be part of these articles. In fact, if you removed all of the promotional content from these articles you'd be left with just a few sentences. That isn't sufficient to justify having articles about these subjects.

By the way, can you specify what your relation is to these subjects, either personal or financial, if any? Brian-armstrong (talk) 03:02, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No indications of notability, entirely promotional, fails GNG, WP:NCORP and WP:SPIP. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 14:43, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.