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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Consensus appears to be "keep" - although a more appropriate, non-BLP title would be preferred (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I've just declined the CSD attack page, as I don't think it is. Passes A7 as well.
Is she notable by wiki standards? Probably, but let's let the community decide. GedUK 17:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Has received quite a bit of coverage in the media; I first learned about her on the KSTP-FM radio morning show, where the DJs were interviewing her. She's been doing a national radio tour. Stonemason89 (talk) 17:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, as mentioned in the article, she holds the world record as the heaviest woman to ever give birth. That in itself, like any world record, is a strong argument in favor of notability. Stonemason89 (talk) 18:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Not really. There's no way every person listed for some nonsense record in the Guinness Book is notable. --LordPistachio talk 19:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, as mentioned in the article, she holds the world record as the heaviest woman to ever give birth. That in itself, like any world record, is a strong argument in favor of notability. Stonemason89 (talk) 18:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteWhile Ms. Simpson has received some media coverage, it's the nature of the coverage, and the nature of why she is famous. The page could possibly be considered an attack (as I did when I originally saw the article) towards Ms. Simpson or obese persons in general. She is somewhat notable, but does not appear to meet the notability standards because of being obese, wanting to gain more weight, and going on a radio tour. --ANowlin: talk 17:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]DeleteWhile this is not an attack page by any stretch of the imagination, I think it falls under WP:NOTNEWS and/or WP:BLP1E. --LordPistachio talk 18:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]- How would this fall under NOTNEWS or BLP1E? She's been receiving ongoing coverage for several years now; hardly an isolated incident or one-time news story. Stonemason89 (talk) 18:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I didn't realize the coverage about her was ongoing. The article probably needs some more sources, but in light of this, I say keep. --LordPistachio talk 19:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going amend my motion to keep as well. I did just hear something about her on XM Radio. My apologies to the author for my original reaction. --ANowlin: talk 19:08, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Apology accepted. Stonemason89 (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going amend my motion to keep as well. I did just hear something about her on XM Radio. My apologies to the author for my original reaction. --ANowlin: talk 19:08, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I didn't realize the coverage about her was ongoing. The article probably needs some more sources, but in light of this, I say keep. --LordPistachio talk 19:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- How would this fall under NOTNEWS or BLP1E? She's been receiving ongoing coverage for several years now; hardly an isolated incident or one-time news story. Stonemason89 (talk) 18:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Notable, as demonstrated by the sources given. The title needs to change, though (maybe Donna Simpson (obese woman)?) We also need a hatnote at Donna Simpson. I'll get that. Buddy431 (talk) 02:08, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree that the current title is lacking; however, at the time I wrote it, I had racked my brains and honestly couldn't think of a better title. Stonemason89 (talk) 19:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note - This is the second incarnation of this topic previously deleted as the outcome from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donna Simpson (world's heaviest woman to give birth). -- Whpq (talk) 19:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Wow, I had no idea there was a previous incarnation of this article. Stonemason89 (talk) 22:09, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - It was a BLP1E last time, and it still is. My opinion has not changed. And as per my statement in the previous AFD, she is not a world record holder. In fact, I believe that Guiness now has a policy against these types of records (heaviest woman to give birth) to discourage unhealthy attempts for world records. -- Whpq (talk) 19:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Well, whaddya know! This came back. I !vote keep again per my prior comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donna Simpson (world's heaviest woman to give birth). I am not surprised to see that coverage of this woman continues. You can see the old article which was deleted on my bloghere.--Milowent (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.