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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 03:20, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dominika Lasota[edit]

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Minor Polish activist, there is no WP:SIGCOV. The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (biographies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Ongoing discussion at pl wiki (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/biografie/2022:11:01:Dominika Lasota) right now consists of the creator defending it but more experienced editors pointing out the SIGCOV problem (she didn't win any awards, etc., all we have are passing mentions in media). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:33, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Satisfies WP:GNG. Notable in multiple international sources that are not yet in the current version of the article: Financial Times, Nov 2021 Dominika Lasota, 19, an activist with Fridays for Future in Poland; Politico, Nov 2022 notable as a Polish activist worth quoting and notable enough to have faced charges ... over her participation in a protest in 2020; New York Times, Jun 2022 The woman shouting into a megaphone is Dominika Lasota, who has emerged as a protest leader. ... Ms. Lasota and Ms. Jedroszkowiak have emerged as leaders in a dynamic new wing of the antiwar movement, and the video of them lecturing Mr. Macron went viral, making them celebrities for a moment in France and in Poland, where they are from. Notable to some degree since 2020 in Kujawsko-Pomorskie: Express Bydgoski, Sep 2020 – main activist from Młodzieżowy Strajk Klimatyczny (Climate Youth Strike) interviewed; Portal Kujawski, Jun 2020 - long quotes published. Polityka, Nov 2020, named as a member of the Consultative Council (Poland). Lasota's notability increased from local and national in 2020 to international in 2021 and 2022. Boud (talk) 04:28, 2 November 2022 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Boud (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]
    Lasota is still attracting major media attention in Poland for her climate emergency related activities, as of October 2022: 18 Oct 2022, Gazeta Wyborcza - summary: We hope that the government stops playing around and starts treating the emergency seriously. ... – said Dominika Lasota. The climate activists protested in front of the Office of the Prime Minister. BiznesAlert.pl is less well-known, but widely used as a source in pl.Wikipedia - this 20 Oct 2022 article, Lasota: We're dealing with a crisis and our politicians are avoiding it (interview), gives an in-depth interview with Lasota. Notability in TV media (user:Bruno_Latour's comment below) is harder to judge without online text sources, but that is not needed anyway. Boud (talk) 18:53, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This all fails WP:SIGCOV, those are mentions in passing. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:16, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Your interpretation of SIGCOV in this context has already been asserted. An uninvolved editor will look at the evidence sooner or later. Boud (talk) 22:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    How relevant is ongoing discussion at pl wiki? At the moment none of the articles climate crisis, 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP26) or 2022 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP27, which starts tomorrow 6 November) exist in pl.Wikipedia, and pl:Konferencja Narodów Zjednoczonych w sprawie Zmian Klimatu, Warszawa 2013 = 2013 United Nations Climate Change Conference is only one paragraph and three one-sentence paragraphs long, despite having been held in Poland. The collective editing activity of people editing on pl.Wikipedia on topics related to the climate emergency doesn't seem like much of a help in deciding on the notability of a Polish climate activist in terms of knowledge about the world on en.Wikipedia. Boud (talk) 13:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This non-free photo in the Krytyka Polityczna 28 October 2022 article makes Dominika Lasota look like she must be a president or prime minister. Boud (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - International media such as the New York Times, CNN, Financial Times, The Japan Times, Politico, Guardian, Sky News have written about the activist's actions. The number of different media outlets that have written about her attest to her fame (57 different sources in the footnotes in polish wikipedia). There are no awards or habilitation among climate activists to establish encyclopedic lines. Activists, as the name implies, act, and it is the measure of their actions, activities and initiatives that should be judged, and these, in the case of Dominika Lasota, are of impressive quantity and quality. These include the most important activist activities on a global scale (e.g., the COP26 summit in Glasgow, the petition with Greta Thunberg, which was signed by nearly 2 million people). Additional Lasota is so original in her theses that Gazeta Wyborcza wrote that she has created a "new current of activism." Lasota is behind some of the most important activist actions in Poland in recent years, such as the Youth Climate Strike, the All-Poland Women's Strike, and most recently the Crisis Strike. She is internationally known (and here the fact that there have been articles about her in other language versions of Wikipedia can be used as evidence), as well as a wide spectrum of foreign media that write about her. The media follows her discussions with figures such as Ursula von der Leyen and Emmanuel Macron. In the media, she appears on programs with figures such as Szymon Malinowski, Bogdan Chojnicki and Michal Kolodziejczak. It is worthwhile to supplement the English-language article with the threads contained in https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominika_Lasota Bruno Latour (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2022 (UTC) — Bruno Latour (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - as other editors have mentioned the amount of international news focusing on her work seems more than enough to warrant an article. BogLogs (talk) 05:44, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Meeting or talking to someone even if that person is head of the state does not judge, that the second interlocutor is such influential person to deserve for having wikipedia article. Many of sources to this article are interviews taken with Lasota, they aren't independent article suggesting she has outstanding achievments. She's casual polish activist who has been invited to media's a few times The Wolak (talk) 13:54, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One of Lasota's outstanding achievements in 2022 is, according to The New York Times, Jun 2022 that she has emerged as a protest leader ... in a dynamic new wing of the antiwar movement. See The New York Times for more information about NYT. Boud (talk) 02:08, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, I'd like to see more participation by experienced editors.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - the coverage of her activism is broadly covered in the international press, in reliable sources. The June 2022 New York Times article is significant coverage, and the other multiple mentions meet WP:BASIC. DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:29, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - After Financial Times, The New York Times, Politico, and The (Glasgow) Herald, DW has now listed another outstanding achievement by Lasota: Deutsche Welle 15 Nov 2022 (archive) - Lasota is the main organizer of climate strikes in Poland. Boud (talk) 18:17, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8lLbejItlI
    Also interviewed at the beginning of this DW News video related to the article you mention. 109.13.135.233 (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This AfD has been mentioned here and here to attract more experienced editors. Boud (talk) 19:05, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: More than adequate news coverage for notability, per a Google News search. Example: a recent Deutsche Welle article title: Dominika Lasota: the face of Poland's climate movement" begins with description: "Sweden has Greta Thunberg, Uganda has Vanessa Nakate, Germany has Luisa Neubauer and Poland has Dominika Lasota.". —RCraig09 (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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