Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disco house (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to house music. Any verifiable content can be merged if appropriate. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 00:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disco house[edit]

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Another sub genre of a sub genre ...... This time the sub genre is unique because it use elements from one of the parent genres. Again not notable, not unique, another one of the endless minor and arbitrary variations on dance music. Unsourced for 5 years. Ridernyc (talk) 04:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is obviously overrun by users with poor spelling and hu-uge urge to categorize everything so they can remove it so they can be notable for at least doing something other than fapping on the internets, amirite? Shadiac (talk) 20:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - unless any proof is brought forward showing that this is a geniune name for a genuine subgenre. The article is entirely unsourced and the waffle doesn't suggest that there is anything especially notable about this particular variety of fusion of genres... --Jubilee♫clipman 01:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Disco house is a fusion genre between disco and house. Checking news sources, I found an abundance of references since 1999 until two hours old, from the world round. Hereunder I bring only a very small selection. The situation in Google books is very much the same: there is very sizable amount of references in important reference books and in music magazines. Given the abundance of sources, I believe that this AfD lacks merit. gidonb (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne G: Hot British DJ brings hot new beats
Project Q Atlanta - Buck Cooke - ‎Feb 18, 2010‎
I wanted to include new productions, some classics mixes as well as classic songs, giving me the chance to move from the funky disco house of “Love ...

deBonton Grab Bag Launch Party
News de stars - ‎2 hours ago‎
Pour cette nuit placée sous le signe de la synthpop, de la new wave et de la disco-house, deBonton, prototype musicalement androgyne, se propose de prolon. ...

RockOnNet
House v 4ki
RockOnNet - ‎Feb 16, 2010‎
Na koncu sta za mešalke stopila Crazy P Soundsystem, ki sta ponudila zelo kvaliteten in plesen disco-house, pri katerem je res bilo težko ostati v mirnem ...

Hot Chip: Linéaire ***
Cyberpresse - ‎Feb 6, 2010‎
... belles mélodies sur des structures rythmiques très disco-house, façon Moroder, une influence musicale dominante sur cet album fait de hauts et de bas. ...

Entrancing & dancing With sold-out shows, packed clubs, even its own ...
$1.95 - Denver Post - NewsBank - Aug 1, 2002
Note: Styles are often mashed together to create a slightly new style (ie: disco + house = disco house) :. Dance: Sometimes referred to as "club," rhythm ...

Head to St. Pete for Fort Rave, THE MOSCOW TIMES | Article from The …
Pay-Per-View - Moscow Times - HighBeam Research - Jul 18, 2003
11:30 p.m. DJ Jeff (Russia, disco house) 1 a.m. DJ Lottie (Britain, techno house) ... 5 a.m. DJ Rudyk (Russia, disco house & progressive) ...

Disco house at escape
Pay-Per-View - South Wales Evening Post - Factiva, from Dow Jones - Feb 11, 2005
Their first tour for 10 years brings them to Escape in Northampton Lane, with special guest DJ Joey Negro. Universally acknowledged as the master of all ...

House Music in the Mix
Go Certify - Sep 27, 2004
The disco house mix of Burning is included-too bad, considering there ... Track 3 is a dubby disco house track. Track 4 throws in a bit more female vocal. ...

All Bar None.(Features) | Article from Liverpool Echo (Liverpool,...
Pay-Per-View - Liverpool Echo - HighBeam Research - Dec 27, 2002
They are promising the "best disco house without the trash", ... On Saturdays more funky disco house numbers can be heard, plus another room for chart ...

STYLIN' ON THE SOUTH SHORE
$2.95 - Boston Globe - NewsBank - May 13, 1999
The new Friday DJ is Tim Collins, who spins disco house, Top 40, and some hip-hop. ... He plans to feature '70s and '80s disco, disco house, and Top 40. ...

A Night Out With Vicious Grooves - Mixed by DJ John Course
Resident Advisor - May 24, 2003
A pumping disco house tune featuring a big bassline, synth stabs and some quirky beatbox samples, this tune has gained massive praise from the likes of ...

Out & About: Our Sonia is to sing live.(Features) | Article from...
Pay-Per-View - Liverpool Echo - HighBeam Research - Jul 6, 2007
They are promising the "best disco house without the trash", and "compulsory flirting" with Ian Cole sweating it out for a disco house frenzy. ...

The labours of Hercules
The List - Mar 13, 2008
'Classic disco house is what excited me when I was young,' says Butler. 'The album was driven by memories of getting up on various dancefloors. ...

CLUBS: G-whizz it's Great.(Features) | Article from Liverpool Echo ( …
Pay-Per-View - Liverpool Echo - HighBeam Research - Aug 16, 2002
With DJ's Ian Cole, Jon Hooper, John Cotton and Sarah Furey, we've had Pop, R'n'B, Funky House, Disco House and Dirty Classics, all ... ...

You can type any two words into Google and get a mountain of hits. All the sources you list show this as just that people combining 2 words. There are no sources showing the development or even describing this as a genre. Ridernyc (talk) 04:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can type "wikipedia" in Google and get into eBay selling Wikipedia usernames. Google is not an argument, neither is it a trust engine to define what is a genre and what is not. Obviously, the article deserves a chance if properly sourced. Shadiac (talk) 06:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that I may have been unclear. These are not the results of a regular Google search, but independent news sources and just a handful of the huge amount there is. There are also many (reference) books that refer to the genre. gidonb (talk) 12:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have referenced the article with independent, nontrivial sources. gidonb (talk) 14:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE. LOL @ the above, completely TLDR. If this is in fact a valid "genre fusion", whatever that means, then we need to show evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. JBsupreme (talk) 07:54, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's fusion genre, not the other way around. gidonb (talk) 02:26, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete can find no independent non-trivial coverage of the musical style, does not meet WP:GNG. J04n(talk page) 10:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/Rewrite — actually yeah, now it does seem to provide enough reliable sources to at least define what "disco house" is. Any other information (such as similarity with rock 'n' roll and influences) should be considered original research (Google can't help here) and removed. Shadiac (talk) 14:15, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Totally subjective and undefinable term for another music sub genre. Guyonthesubway (talk) 15:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to house music. In general, if a subgenre term is in use (i.e. it is a valid search term), but not independently notable, the proper thing to do is merge and redirect to the parent genre. This can be done without taking it to AfD, as no admin-only actions are necessary. I could switch to keep if more extensive sources could be found: the ones supplied in this AfD by Gidonb are passing mentions, which is enough to demonstrate use of the term, but not necessarily enough notability for an article of its own. — Gwalla | Talk 19:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. In the article I used a more direct discussion of the style. gidonb (talk) 02:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect If this is a likely search term it seems likely that it should go to House Music. Any merging will depend on there being some reliable sources for what is merged. So the original reasearch (if that is what it is) should be dropped.--SabreBD (talk) 10:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Seems non-notable enough for it. There is the song list again, and there is also a lack of sources. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 23:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- On second thought, there are eight sources. I wouldn't mind a redirect either. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 23:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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