Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dinosaur species in Terra Nova

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The result was made extinct. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:29, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dinosaur species in Terra Nova[edit]

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Unreferenced stub article that fails to establish notability of the subject. The article was redirected because of that, but the redirection was reverted without explanation.[1] While dinosaurs do appear in the series, which is set 85 million years in the past, they are not notable enough for a separate article at this time, any more than we would have Trees in Terra Nova, Vehicles in Terra Nova or Weapons in Terra Nova. The dinosaurs are essentially background objects, like the trees, vehicles and weapons. Even the episode in which dinosaurs featured heavily was more about the human reaction to them rather than the dinosaurs themselves. At this time, with only four episodes having been aired, this series doesn't even have an article on the main characters, so creating an unreferenced article like this, that doesn't even link to the correct article for the series, is pre-emptive and unnecessary at best. AussieLegend (talk) 07:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:19, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant information would be best in the parent article - there is room - where this article should redirect. pablo 13:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, the series article is a little less than 1,800 words so there's plenty of room to include them there. --AussieLegend (talk) 19:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The dinosaurs are the only thing that has been named in Terra Nova, save for a few geographic points. There's little chance they'll start naming vehicles, as there's only a few in the entire show, send back from the future. Unless the trees start having evil spores, again, no chance of naming them. And their weapons are actually Nerf guns, so little chance they'll want to draw attention to them. Dinosaurs are really the only thing that they'll name and describe on a multi-episode basis. -- Zanimum (talk) 18:43, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- They've certainly named people and we don't even have a character article. It's a little bit WP:CRYSTAL to say that they'll continue naming dinosaurs, given that only 4 episodes have aired. And, of course, there's the lack of references and the failure to establish notability. --AussieLegend (talk) 19:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is not much to say about the topic. Besides that the article seems to be mainly someone's impressions from seeing the program. Tell us about the dinoes in the main article. BigJim707 (talk) 20:01, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Obviously a fan has written a page which is non-notable. Ray-Rays 20:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Keep or Merge back to parent article Terra Nova (TV series). It's relivant information to the series, but unreference and short, it should probably be a couple sentences in the main article. Mathewignash (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, don't merge. I removed a sprawling list of "featured" dinos from the main article two weeks ago because it already appeared as WP:TRIVIA based on WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH (i.e. watching the show). Wait for an expert (dino professor or show creator) to write about the dinos or their creation on the show, not start a list mentioning every dinosaur that ever appeared there to have a huge WP:CRUFT-fest. – sgeureka ^t•c 07:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that it's not necessarely original research to put something in an article based on seeing it on the show. That's just a primary source. Pleanty of articles on fantasy fiction have an appropriate list of the "monsters" in that fiction. If you keep deleting it from the main article no wonder they moved to a companion article. A list of the reoccuring monsters on a show is no better or worse than a list of the characters. Perhaps the dinosaurs should be among the character list? Not a lot of information is needed, just a name, one sentence of description, and if necessary an episode where they were introduced or highlighted. Mathewignash (talk) 18:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The subject of the article does not meet the general notability guideline. The content appears to be original research by synthesis, so, with no references, a merge is not justified. Jfgslo (talk) 03:50, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.