Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DigitalMedia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Courcelles 01:54, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DigitalMedia

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spammy article on a subject that lacks significant coverage in 3rd party sources. RadioFan (talk) 22:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lack of reliable sources. Truthsort (talk) 23:52, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. — frankie (talk) 02:08, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Nothing on Google and Yahoo that would be fit for an encyclopedia.SwisterTwister talk 04:33, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Content is commercial but not spammy (is there a definition of "spammy" somewhere). The following links establish notability of the topic - http://www.systemscontractor.com/article/58204.aspx, http://www.systemscontractor.com/blog/33020.aspx, http://hiddenwires.co.uk/resourcesarticles2011/articles20110704-01.html. Please read PROD discussion at Talk:DigitalMedia before voting. --Kvng (talk) 16:20, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The there are some primary source concerns with those links. The first link is a reprint of a company written press release, the hiddenwires.co.uk article was written by the company . The 2nd link looks to have been written by a writer for a New Bay media industry magazine so it's a reasonable reference but with just a single reference I'm still not seeing the kind of significant coverage in 3rd party reliable sources WP:GNG and WP:CORP require.--RadioFan (talk) 02:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not about an organization so I don't think WP:CORP applies. There are multiple whole articles from secondary sources about DigitalMedia. Maybe some are just regurgitated press releases but still I think were above the WP:GNG bar. Sorry if things are a bit sketchy but, really, the article is less than a month old. --Kvng (talk) 03:30, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the solution here is userification so that the possible references you mention can be sorted through and those which are truly independent and reliable can be used to improve the article. Once that is complete, the article can be moved back into production space. Kvng you seem passionate about this article, would you like to undertake that? I'd be happy to withdraw this nomination and move the article under your userid.--RadioFan (talk) 17:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it is valid to have this article in mainspace. I believe the AfD is unwarranted and would prefer to let it run it's course. --Kvng (talk) 13:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 05:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Merge~~ Delete Crestron Electronics is the company that uses this trade name for one of its products~~, until more independent coverage of this technology emerges.~~ That article also needs cleanup, but the company appears notable. $Sharktopus$ ^talk 12:49, 28 August 2011 (UTC) The Crestron article after cleanup is skeletal, and no notable coverage on any of its individual products, including this one, seems available. Changing my vote in response to concerns cited by Kvng. $Sharktopus$ ^talk 04:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A merge to the parent article on the company seems like a reasonable solution here.--RadioFan (talk) 15:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- With the current skeletal state of Crestron Electronics article, a merge would seem to create an WP:UNDUE problem there. --Kvng (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Merged into a products section in the manufacturer's article, I'm not seeing an WP:UNDUE problem --RadioFan (talk) 17:38, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'm sorry I did not fully explain. There are currently no other products listed in Crestron Electronics. Merging would make DigitalMedia look like their most important (only?) product and that's not the case. Media distribution is a relatively recent endeavour. Crestron's main business is in home and commercial automation - controller CPUs, touchscreens and such. --Kvng (talk) 03:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - I think you are right, and I withdraw my suggestion. $Sharktopus$ ^talk 04:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:GNG. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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