Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dhaka University Model United Nations Association

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The result was merge to Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka. Tone 17:48, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dhaka University Model United Nations Association[edit]

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This article is about a students association which is not notable enough. Might be included in ~~DU's entry~~ Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka. --» nafSadh did say 23:34, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - passes WP:GNG going with the references given. Would have supported merger with University of Dhaka but that will give undue weight to the subject. --Zayeem ^(talk) 14:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - there are hundreds of clubs like this and few are notable. There is evidence of self promotion in the refs given - the Daily sun article states "The writer studies at the Department of Development Studies, Dhaka University and founder member, DUMUNA". We need to see independent sources. IMO this organisation is not notable Gbawden (talk) 11:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^^This is just one reference written by a DUMUNA member, but the reference is from Daily Sun a popular English newspaper in Bangladesh. Other references are completely independent from DUMUNA, please check!

Author of Daily Sun event news is, quote: "The writer studies at the Department of Development Studies, Dhaka University and founder member, DUMUNA"--» nafSadh did say 21:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is only one reference, what about other references? They are totally independent from the subject. Geek013 (talk) 11:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NewAge is the only credible newspaper; others (Notunbarta, Somkal, AmarDesh) being notoriously known for reporting hoaxes, fake or false news are somewhat not credible. --» nafSadh did say 17:57, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All of them are credible sources, ask any Bangladeshi. There is even wikipedia pages on Amar Desh and Samakal. Samakal's editor Golam Sarwar is a recipient of Ekushe Podok. Geek013 (talk) 11:25, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Don't tell me you do not regularly make fun of these newspaper for being unutterably irresponsible. Everyone is turning itself into Priyo or JayJayDin. Even Prothom-Alo is losing trust. Ask any other Bangladeshi. --» nafSadh did say 15:15, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe you are putting Priyo News over Prothom Alo, Samakal, Amar Desh. Priyo is just an online news site whereas those three are popular newspapers in Bangladesh, in fact Priyo itself sometimes sources its news from those three newspapers. Geek013 (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good LORD! You totally comprehended my statement wrong! I said, everyone is losing their level trust and becoming as unreliable as Priyo. I hope you'd comprehend properly this time. (in case, in Bengali: প্রায় সব পত্রিকাই প্রিয়'র মত ভূয়া হয়ে যাচ্ছে । N.B.: সমকাল, আমার দেশ এদের অনলাইন সেকশন রিলায়েবল না।) --» nafSadh did say 18:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Now you are saying every Bangladeshi newspaper is becoming unreliable? I thought Wikipedia is free from biasness against any country. Geek013 (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This article should be kept because it is about a famous students organization of Dhaka University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geek013 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are some ways to evaluate whether or not it is famous enough (WP:Notability) to deserve a standalone article of its own. This entry reads like a self authored, self promoting article bolstered with some references which do not actually indicate enough notability. With so many clubs at DU, it is better to maintain an article listing all its clubs. --» nafSadh did say 14:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have read WP:Notability and I still think this article should be kept because it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, please check the references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geek013 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Davey2010 • (talk) 21:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - no objective reader would consider that this student group passes WP:GNG. Bearian (talk) 18:53, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

why? Geek013 (talk) 08:04, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A reasonable person could not tell how important the organization was by looking at objective facts such as number of members, impact on the larger University or peer institutions, notable alumni, or significant coverage in independent sources. The information is currently Not even wrong; it fails the basic test of an encyclopedia. Bearian (talk) 15:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All the references are reliable sources and have significant coverage. Geek013 (talk) 17:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ It is my opinion that student groups in South Asia have a lot more prestige than they do in many other places in the world. This one meets WP:GNG as well as can be expected with English language Daily Sun coverage and if it has been covered in Bangla also, then I think that adds weight to keeping this. Information without citations could be removed to improve this article and prevent it from going astray, but it seems like a fair article to me and it would be undue to merge it with Dhaka University. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka. It is a better fit. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka - There is already a page which lists a number of student groups at the University of Dhaka. There's no reason why this organization merits a separate article. Upjav (talk) 21:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But there are many references? Geek013 (talk) 17:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SpinningSpark 23:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka .As per Bearian this student group clearly not does not pass WP:GNG on its own.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:56, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why so? There are many references to pass notability. Geek013 (talk) 17:20, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka per above. Checking Lexis Advance news hits shows four instances of rather trivial coverage from local news sources. The provided sources in the article are not reliable sources for Wikipedia purposes. Really, this should be a delete, but it's a reasonable redirect. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 16:26, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as noted by Bearian. Fails GNG. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 12:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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