Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devin Mroz

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:58, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Devin Mroz

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Procedural AFD, expired PROD that had been PRODded before. Nomination was: "Unsourced BLP, was previously deleted via PROD for lack of notability, IMDB page shows only 3 minor roles http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3999679/, google doesn't return 3rd party coverage." I concur, and note the cut'n'pasted reference numbers in the text that don't point to anything. David Gerard (talk) 22:45, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. David Gerard (talk) 22:46, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. David Gerard (talk) 22:46, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete IMDb is the only think vaguely like a reliable source I can find, and it is not. I seem to recall that at times IMDb is very wrong about casting for unreleased films. The film mentioned is according to IMDb due to be released in 2017.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:26, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Even if we could be 100%sure that IMDb is right both that Mroz is on the cast of Savage Dog nothing indicates that even when it is released this will propel Mroz to notability. He is not one of the 8 main cast members per IMDb. He is instead one of the 13 additional cast members. The film is said to still be in the filming stage, so he might also fall the fate of some people who are filmed and then cut from the final version. No one knows for sure at this point that Savage Dog when released will have Mroz appear on screen, let alone speak. In fact it is not a forgone conclusion Savage Dog will ever be released. The film is being directed by Jesse V. Johnson whose last film to be released The Package opened 81st at the box office (if asked I would not have guessed you could open below 60th), and managed to earn $1,469, even though the lead role was played by Steve Austin. In fact Johnson's film The Beutiful Ones was per IMDb still in post-production in July, but I came up with a claim it was released in June. Plus the only hard evidence I found was a YouTube trailer from 2014. None of this suggests that Savage Dog is actually on schedule or even for sure ever going to bereleased, let alone be a notable film, and even if it was a notable film, Mroz role appears to be too minor to count for actor notability, and unless his role made him a cult classic, he would need another significant role, and we would want a real reliable source, neither of which we have.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:45, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I posted the expired PROD mentioned above, and my reasons haven't changed. JamesG5 (talk) 03:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as absolutely unacceptable, not only not having sufficient and convincing sources, there's nothing close to actually suggesting a better notability overall since his list of works explain it all. We've deleted articles with 2 PRODs before and no one would've been affected had it happened for this case. SwisterTwister talk 05:43, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.