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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete (once the sockpuppets and suspected sockpuppets are discounted). DS 21:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Devajyoti Ray[edit]

speedy delete - no notability and i speculate this was created by the subject of the article (based on his creation of articles on his own artwork). give me a break! 4.18GB 13:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete as spam. No particular claims of notability, and creator's contributions seem to consist of spamming his name and website across every article they can think of. Update: see also In Despair. Pseudorealism seems to be related. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep- Dont assign motives. He has been covered in many mainstream articles.Bakaman Bakatalk 20:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. Bakaman Bakatalk 20:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. NN, spam, astroturfing. Pavel Vozenilek 20:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Pseudorealism is another spam page to increase rank of website obviously operated by Devajyoti Ray. I must say that the old days of naive spammers are over - this guy was able to grab top ranks for generic word with just three stubs here. Pavel Vozenilek 20:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Did you even look at the article? Notability has been established. Who cares whether he spammed, he still is notable.Bakaman Bakatalk 21:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually, it hasn't been unqeuivocally established. The links that you added aren't to non-trivial published works. The "bengali school" article just gives a name check as part of a laundry list of names, the page in The Hindu simply advertises the opening times for an art exhibition, and in fact was earlier removed from the article here. Uncle G 21:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Reply - Its not the works that this AFD is on, its the artist, who is notableBakaman Bakatalk 23:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Reply - well that's exactly what we are debating, if he is notable. its obvious these 3 articles he created were in self promotion4.18GB 23:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • You appear to be confused about how notability is determined and what published works we deal with in the context of AFD. Please read our Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies. The relevant published works are the ones cited in the article (and any further ones that anyone can find), and as I pointed out, at least two of them don't pass the non-triviality threshold. Uncle G 00:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • Reply - Why are you assuming bad faith (I'm asking this at 4.1GB)? It may as well be fancruft. Anyway, he has been noted in The Tribune India and The Telegraph Calcutta as well as the Hindu. I dont know/care if his work is notable, but trhe artist definitely is.Bakaman Bakatalk 01:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. --Kf4bdy talk contribs 02:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very Strong Keep- Valuable information about an upcoming Indian Artist.he is notable enough. Nileena joseph 05:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. He had some exhibitions to his credit. But, he has not done anything that should get him article on Wikipedia. Also note that most of the Google results are about Devajyoti Ray, a Karnataka IAS/IPS officer, who is SP of Chamarajnagar. The newspapers items cited or provided as external links are annoucements of exhibitions, which tend to declare article as "gifted", "remarkable" etc. utcursch | talk 09:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very Strong Keep- Google search shows not just minor articles or self created articles by the artist, but articles about his paintings in The Telegraph, The Tribune, 21stcenturyindianart.com and Soulstirrings.com. Among the articles on the artist, only a handful are about his work as an IPS officer. The article should be brought back. it is wrong to delete it.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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