Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deus Ex mods

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. As in "not delete"; subsequent editorial consensus may still find a merger preferable. Sandstein 07:26, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deus Ex mods

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Fails WP:GNG as a stand-alone topic (no multiple reliable secondary sources with broad topic coverage). The existing sources all relate to the release of SDK, and do not cover the topic itself. The amount of information does not warrant a WP:SPLIT from Deus Ex. The article does not introduce any new verifiable information not covered by Deus_Ex#Modding. Therefore, it also fails WP:CFORK. There is a large modding community for Deus Ex, as seen on ModDB, for example. This could in theory be used to make a "List of Deus Ex mods" article. However, WP is not an indiscriminate list of links and there is only one notable Deus Ex mod -- The Nameless Mod. Therefore, I propose the article for deletion, and salvaging/merging any reliably verifiable content to the Deus Ex article. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:04, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - I was so close to !voting delete, but then I found a Gamespy article jam-packed with information. Why "weak"? I'm not happy unless I find two good sources. It depends on what kind of coverage the SDK receives, too. Marasmusine (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice find, I didn't notice this one hiding on page 4. But yeah, it still is just one. I'm wondering if this bundled with SDK sources would pass GNG... — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 13:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, there's plenty of modding projects for Deus Ex, each less notable than TNM true, but combine them together and you have a very substantial article to make. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:21, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That would be List of Deus Ex mods with inclusion criteria below the notability of stand-alone articles. We don't make indiscriminate lists and such an article would essentially be a copy of ModDB listing. From what I've googled, I don't see much RS discussing individual mods besides very brief mentions like this. The few potential RS for individual mods can be summarised in a paragraph in the main article. I am yet to see enough sourced to make a substantial article. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:11, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per Maramusine. --DeVerm (talk) 04:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I removed OR from the article and added proper info with cited references. It's SDK release (one primary, one secondary) and GameSpy's mods overview. There is also a podcast on the subject. This will probably satisfy WP:GNG. But I am still concerned about WP:CFORK; I am trying to gather up non-trivial mentions of other mods to expand beyond what is already covered in Deus_Ex#Modding. I don't have access to any print magazines though. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:53, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Merge back to Deus Ex (series). This is an unnecessary WP:CFORK, especially when the series article lacks content. I don't see any reason why the content can't stay, but it doesn't need to be split from the main topic. --Teancum (talk) 12:42, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.