Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Foran
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Coredesat 06:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Derek Foran[edit]
Fails WP:BIO#Athletes as has never played in a fully-pro league.[1] пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not notable per WP:BIO. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:BIO. Peanut4 (talk) 22:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't know how to differentiate between a professional league and one that isn't, but the fact that the league to which Foran belongs, FAI League of Ireland, appears professional, and the number of pages which link directly to Foran's page coupled with the WP:NPOV nature of Foran's page lead me to believe that the league is sufficiently notable and therefore so is Foran. — X S G 22:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]- But he hasn't played a game under WP:BIO guidelines. So still delete whether it's a pro / semi-pro / amateur / Under 12 league. Peanut4 (talk) 22:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Exactly. The WP:BIO criteria is very clear: He must make an apperance in the first team. He has not done that, therefore he fails the criteria. And the only reason why lots of pages link to his article is this template of the club's squad. пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, per WP:BIO; I'm convinced now.— X S G 05:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- But he hasn't played a game under WP:BIO guidelines. So still delete whether it's a pro / semi-pro / amateur / Under 12 league. Peanut4 (talk) 22:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per above. Also, no Google News hits. See http://news.google.com/news?tab=pn&hl=en&q=%22Derek+Foran%22&btnG=Search (Mind meal (talk) 05:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC))[reply]
- Keep He has played for the first team in pre-season friendly matches. He has caps for Ireland at underage level too. He is considered a rising star at the club. What harm is leaving his page up doing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camackhazai (talk • contribs) 11:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
NB: User:Camackhazai is the article's creator- It is well established that youth caps do not confer notability. As for "What harm is his page doing?", that could be used to justify having articles on Sunday League players. пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Would the fact that he is playing for a fully professional club (therefore himself a full professional) not put him a step up from Sunday league? He is expected to have a big season this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camackhazai (talk • contribs) 20:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:CRYSTAL much? He can have an article when he plays the game, otherwise he fails the criteria. пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete- Not notable. Taxman214 02:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxman214 (talk • contribs)
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