Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denvilles halt (2nd nomination)

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The result was Withdrawn New sources have been brought to light which has led to the station being identified under another name. I'll therefore withdraw the nomination and we can get on with moving the article to its correct name. Thanks to all that took the time to sort this one out. Lamberhurst (talk) 19:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Denvilles halt

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Fails WP:NRVE as the station is not mentioned in any of the "standard" works on English railways (see talk page). Of the listed sources, one appears to be WP:USERGENERATED without any evidence of the station and the other appears not to meet WP:RELIABLESOURCES as a (now offline) web page containing no sources and information which is contradictory and unsupported by the standard works. As a side note, the name "Denville Halt" is known to have been the former name of Warblington railway station. Lamberhurst (talk) 13:11, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

• Comment Previous discussion was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denvilles railway station Edgepedia (talk) 13:44, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
• Comment. It's still possible to reach the aforementioned source, but for whatever reason the direct link is broken. Go to the main site, then "Info Sheets." It's the ninth document listed, and it doesn't use this name either. Mackensen (talk) 14:06, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Direct link is here, but that's the one noted as WP:USERGENERATED, not the one shown as "(now offline)" - the parent website for that is still up, where I can't find the page in question, but it is archived here. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:44, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:23, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:23, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

• Delete I have checked in five books - two are lists of railway passenger stations, two are histories of major railway companies (and considered to be authoritative texts), and one is a history of a particular line; I have also examined the four online sources given in the article. None of these nine sources (Byegone Havant excepted, see below) mention a station named "Denvilles", other than in the context of an older name for Warblington railway station. Several of them, including the three books which are histories, mention the "Battle of Havant", and some note that during the period of dispute, passengers were conveyed by omnibus for part of their journeys; but they don't state where the northern end of this service was, although the implication is that it was in the Havant area. The only source that mentions "Denvilles" in this context is Byegone Havant, but that states

  The L.S.W.R. did, however, start a service from London but passengers had to alight at a temporary platform which was erected in Denvilles. They were then taken to Cosham by horse-drawn omnibus, for a fare of 6d., where they caught another L.S.W.R. train into Portsmouth

  - a "temporary platform", not a station; and "in Denvilles", not "named Denvilles". More comments at Talk:Denvilles halt#Existence? --Redrose64 (talk) 23:44, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
  • changing !vote to Rename to Havant New railway station. New evidence has been provided (see Talk:Denvilles halt#Possible sources that this station was not named "Denvilles" at all, but is in fact the one listed in Butt (1995), p. 115 as "Havant New". --Redrose64 (talk) 19:11, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
• Possible keep/rename, depending on validity of source. I've found a source which shows that there was a station at or near the location indicated, but called Havant New, not Denvilles. See Talk:Denvilles halt for details. Optimist on the run (talk) 07:41, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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