Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis Shanahan

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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:47, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis Shanahan[edit]

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Of borderline notability - successful, but I don't see he meets WP:JOURNALIST or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, barely any detail here. agree not signifcant enough within this profession. Teraplane (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the article is a stub, yes, but Shanahan is one of the significant figures in the Canberra press gallery and has been in Australian media for a long time. In my view he meets item 1 of the the Journalist policy. Deus et lex (talk) 08:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Deus et lex, article needs a lot of work but he is an eminent member of the Canberra press gallery & Australian media landscape. Cavalryman (talk) 14:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Delete one source does not pass GNG. Being widely published does not make one notable, we need work on a person for people other than themselves. No sources that would in any way show notability have been provided.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're basing this purely off the state of the article. Shanahan is a noted political journalist in Australia. Deus et lex (talk) 07:44, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, some items that may indicate/contribute to Shanahan's notability? - awarded an Honorary Doctor of Letters (".. since 1989, Mr Shanahan is an influential voice in the political media landscape. He has reported on ten successive federal elections, over 30 federal budgets and nine prime ministers."), from Inside Kevin07: The People, the Plan, the Prize: ".. the numbers men would then call the media's key commentators, offering updates on where th evotes were heading. It wasn't just Australians at home who would read the likes of Dennis Shanahan, Michelle Grattan or Laura Tingle, or watch Laurie Oakes or Jim Middleton, to learn who was the favourite in the race; so too would some members of caucus who were still making up their minds.", he's quoted/referred to ie. from a then Leader of the Opposition press release "In the case of Peter Costello, didn’t get the message last Saturday from Dennis Shanahan, that the Prime Minister was staying, ..", The Trust Deficit "The Australian's political editor Dennis Shanahan wrote of Latham's threat to the Government: Latham is....", and a Walkley Award finalist. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:00, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He definitely passes WP:JOURNALIST #1, but I can see how someone might miss it - there doesn't appear to be a lot of stuff available online. But Coolabahapple's first link above gives a good idea of his significance - he has been the political editor of Australia's only national newspaper for a long time (the source says since 1989, but then also says he was appointed 10 years after becoming Canberra Bureau Chief also in 1989; this also suggests a later date). I'll keep looking for more sources, but this is one of those cases where we can be 100% certain they exist. Frickeg (talk) 10:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Frickeg. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 19:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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