Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Sania Khan

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The result was keep. Mojo Hand (talk) 22:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Sania Khan

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Sadly, I do not see that this crime is remarkable enough for an article. TheLongTone (talk) 14:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Illinois. Shellwood (talk) 14:17, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing terribly notable, sad yes, but almost routine in the USA. Made a video the ex didn't like and then she was murdered and he took his own life. Posting a video online before dying isn't terribly notable these days. Life outside of her passing seems routine. Oaktree b (talk) 15:36, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep - Firstly, this was a highly notable case that put a spotlight on domestic abuse and the stigmatization of divorce in South Asian immigrant communities. Killings like this are not "routine" as stated in the previous comment. Secondly, I wish the nominator either 1) brought up the issue with the creator of the article or on the talk page or 2) used Template:Notability to draw attention to this and give editors a chance to improve it. Adding some context in the first paragraph about reactions to the killing of a well-known social media influencer and the conversations around the safety of South Asian women will easily establish notability for Wikipedia. Bringing it straight to AfD within 12 hours of it being created does not meet our best practices of Wikipedia:Assume Good Faith and Wikipedia:Collaboration first. - Fuzheado | Talk 16:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide sources showing it's been analyzed as such. That would really help the situation. Oaktree b (talk) 13:22, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully you see they are in the many sources in the article, particularly at the end of the legacy section where there are NBC, Insider and Psychology Today. - Fuzheado | Talk 20:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - According to Wikipedia:Notability_(events),"Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below)." This case has been covered by multiple reliable sources both at the local, national, and international level, including but not limited to the Chicago Sun Times, Chicago Tribune MSNBC, TIME, and BBC. These sources connect Khan's murder to larger conversations surrounding domestic violence in South Asian Communities more broadly. Moreover, Wikipedia:Notability_(events) states that "Events are probably notable if they have enduring historical significance and meet the general notability guideline, or if they have a significant lasting effect." Since the Death of Sania Khan is so recent it is difficult to say what the historical significance is yet; however, her death does meet general notability guidelines. The event had significant coverage by multiple reliable sources. While we may not be able to determine historical significance at this time, TIME[1], NBC [2], BBC [3], and other sources have reported on the current significance of Khan's TikTok videos and murder to larger conversations surrounding domestic violence and divorce in South Asian communities. Finally, I know that Wikipedia is not a news source. This article is not attempting to report routine news. The death of Sania Khan is not a "routine case," which should be obvious by the overwhelming coverage it has received compared to other incidences of domestic violence that do not get this level of coverage. CarCai (talk) 18:24, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, this case received significant nationwide media coverage from reliable sources and is not by any means a "routine" death thanks to its exposing the stigma around talking about divorce in South Asian communities. XenonNSMB (talk, contribs) 18:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - Not only does this case demonstrate notability, but the article itself speaks to its notability in the first paragraph. If needed, perhaps more can be added to the "Legacy" section, but there is no basis to delete the article outright. The arguments for deleting appear to misinterpret this case as an isolated, insignificant news event. Mrmarciello14 (talk) 20:44, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep, agree with User:Fuzheado above that this case is highly notable and was well documented before, during, and after the death of the subject in reliable sources. Brings new understanding to the topic of divorce and domestic violence in South Asian communities in the US. KellyDoyle (talk) 19:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep, agree with comments above. There are 22 sources on the article, which includes articles from local sources (WDEF, UTC News, Chicago Tribune), national sources (Miami Herald, ABC News, NBC News), and international sources (BBC, TIME, Dawn News, Vogue India, HuffPost). I added more details of the conversation surrounding her death and the section can easily be expanded (e.g. with specific social media posts). The social media conversation, as can be seen from the sources, was not limited to the US, but also included commentary from civilians, journalists, and celebrities in India and Pakistan as well. I will continue adding sources to the legacy section as I find them. Compsognathusenthusiast (talk) 03:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Tragic event has received sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:57, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.