Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is clear that subject satisfies GNG for multiple accomplishments. BLP1E is inapplicable regardless to a subject's voluntary participation for nineteen days on a nationally broadcast television program, so neither the letter nor spirit of BLP1E would be served by applying it here. It's not "BLP1THINGOFANYKIND". postdlf (talk) 18:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant)[edit]

Article was deleted following discussion 26 October 2010 based upon WP:BLP1E arguments. Article was undeleted and userfied 9 December 2011 following request for undeletion on the basis that as the founder of National History Bee and Bowl, the subject met WP:N requirements. Article moved from user space to live article 13 December 2011.

Since restoration, article has not been improved to a good state, and WP:BLP issues have still not been addressed. Relationship to National History Bee and Bowl is mentioned only in passing, and focus of article remains his appearances on Jeopardy!, which circle back to WP:BLP1E.

Google serach for "david madden national history bee and bowl" provides no results that meet WP:BLPPRIMARY or WP:SIGCOV. WP:BIO does not provide guidelines for founders of quiz bowls, and while the individual is tangently related to academia, WP:ACADEMIC does not apply to Madden as he is not a scholar or researcher. AldezD (talk) 17:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Lacks multiple reliable independent secondary sources needed to establish notability. Googling turned up nothing useful. Being the founder of the National History Bee and Bowl is not sufficient to establish notability in lieu of sources. Msnicki (talk) 01:46, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 14:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in reliable sources years after the subject's involvement in the Jeopardy! show:
1. Ferguson, Mike (2014-02-08). "'I'll take history for $1,000, Alex': Founder of history bowl attends Montana competition". Billings Gazette. Archived from the original on 2014-07-22. Retrieved 2014-07-22.
  "Madden, 32, is founder and executive director of the National History Bee and Bowl, an individual and team competition with about 50,000 participants in more than 200 places around the country and overseas, too"
  
  "Madden, a graduate of Princeton University, founded the organization four years ago on his more than $400,000 in winnings on America’s most famous quiz show. He flew out this weekend to participate in the Montana state championship"
  
  "Also an art historian and genealogist, Madden said he “writes none of the questions” for the history competition but “edits everything.”"
  
  "Madden’s wife, Nolwenn Léon Madden, is director of the organization’s international operations. Madden said he enjoys traveling to as many competitions as he can, and his passport supports that assertion. After recently attending competitions in Sri Lanka and Dubai, he has upcoming appointments in Shanghai and Beijing."
2. Zarnowski, Tatiana (2011-02-28). "Saratoga Springs competition will test knowledge of history". The Daily Gazette. Archived from the original on 2014-07-22. Retrieved 2014-07-22.
  "National History Bowl and Bee, a private, for-profit startup company, is based in Ridgewood, N.J., where owner David Madden is from."
  
  "In 2005, Madden reigned in a 20-game run on “Jeopardy!,” the second-longest ever after Ken Jennings, who had a 74-game winning streak."
  
  "Quiz Bowl covers history questions and other topics, but Madden wanted a contest that was solely devoted to history, Mantell said."
Here is a small sample of the substantial coverage of David Madden stemming from the Jeopardy! show:
1. Strauss, Robert (2014-07-22). "Worth Noting; I'll Take Quiz Kids For $600, Alex". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2014-07-22. Retrieved 2014-07-22.
2. Harris, Bob (2007-10-31). "Jeopardy! Winner Hiking for Families of Wounded and Disabled Veterans". The Huffington Post. Archived from the original on 2014-07-22. Retrieved 2014-07-22.
3. Pakkala, Tiffany (2008-01-10). "'Jeopardy' winner turns to hiking with a purpose". Savannah Morning News. Archived from the original on 2014-07-22. Retrieved 2014-07-22.
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
WP:BLP1E does not apply because sources like the Billings Gazette article and The Daily Gazette article show that Madden has received media coverage from his involvement in National History Bee and Bowl.
Cunard (talk) 07:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CC-BY-SA 3.0 comment: If this article is kept, please history merge User:Scott Illini/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) with this article to fix the cut-and-paste move. User:Scott Illini/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) was deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Scott Illini/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) and contains pre–December 2011 revisions.
Cunard (talk) 07:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It has secondary sources for his Quiz Bowl work and Jeopardy appearance. Frmorrison (talk) 13:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Cunard's excellent essay on the sourcing. ArcAngel (talk) ) 15:42, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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