Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dartmouth ALGOL 30

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The result was merge‎ to Dartmouth Time-Sharing System#Early history. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dartmouth ALGOL 30

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Fails WP: GNG. I could not find sources to establish notability. Since the person who dePRODed this did not make sourcing improvements and wrongly claimed that existing sources were sufficient, I’ll spell it out here. All of the sources are either primary (from Dartmouth College) or do not discuss Dartmouth ALGOL 30 specifically. The sources that are not from Dartmouth discuss various aspects of the broader topic of ALGOL, but they do not even mention this specific implementation. If you are voting Keep, please provide multiple sources that establish notability with quotations from source material that demonstrates significant coverage, per WP:SIGCOV. HyperAccelerated (talk) 06:28, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Computing, Software, and New Hampshire. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:46, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Dartmouth Time-Sharing System#Early history. Found some significant coverage in a book which calls SCALP an important forerunner to operating systems, but most other sources are republications of Kurtz's reports. DigitalIceAge (talk) 02:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am okay with merging as a ATD. HyperAccelerated (talk) 03:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by Stephen Garland. As an implementer of ALGOL 30, I would like to see this article maintained. As Kurtz notes in his chapter on BASIC in the 1978 ACM publication of the History of Programming Languages, I had discovered (as an undergraduate) that the method developed by Samelson and Bauer in the 1960 article on Sequential formula translation could be extended to parse more of ALGOL than just its arithmetic expressions. David Gries later published his independent discovery of this extension of Samelson and Bauer. The Burroughs 205 and 220 Blog lists ALGOL 30 as one of the six best known implementations of Algol-58. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SJGarland (talk • contribs) 02:16, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully, I do not care where you completed this research as an undergraduate or whether a random blog listed said it was the sixth-most popular implementation. You should familiarize yourself with WP: GNG and WP: SIGCOV. HyperAccelerated (talk) 06:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should also familiarize yourself with WP: COI. I’ve left a notice on your talk page with more details. Please direct any further correspondence about managing conflicts of interest there. HyperAccelerated (talk) 06:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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