Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danny Johnson (Guitar Hero)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect. The argument that he is notable within the context of Guitar Hero players/fans is an interesting point. Consensus in this case seems to favor the notion that he is not notable enough for a stand-alone article, so the page is being redirected to Cultural impact of Guitar Hero, where it is noted that this person is already mentioned. If there is further content worth merging it can be pulled form the page history. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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A "world record" for a computer game isn't, in my opinion, notable. My opinion doesn't really count though. This individual does not meet the general notability guidelines due to the absence of significant coverage. Contested prod. QU TalkQu 22:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete: Notable for one achievement, that of world records on two video games. Are video game records sufficiently notable for WP? --A More Perfect Onion (talk) 22:48, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete WP:BLP1E. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A sole world record, and especially one that has to do with video games, is not enough. Bulldog73 talk da contribs go rando 23:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not a sole world record, it's at least three. And a record is a record, what the record is achieved in should not make a difference. Type "danny johnson guitar hero" into Google. There's enough coverage there. Yellowman94Talk • I am the yellow man. That's what they call me, cos that's what I am. 00:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- With the notable exception of the link you provided in the article I can't find any reliable sources. Typing that search term into Google gives me lots of social networks, blogs, wikis and Youtube results but they aren't reliable. I think what a record is achieved in does make a difference. For example, the marathon has been run competitively for over a century, so it is notable and holding a world record time is notable. Breaking the marathon world record would result in news articles in mainstream media across the world. In comparison a record high score in a computer game is trivial and breaking it would pass the world by in near silence. This is the acid test for inclusion because the notability guidelines require significant independent reliable coverage - and it doesn't seem to exist. QU TalkQu 00:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I referenced the Guinness World Records site for each record, as well as the New York Times, how are they not reliable sources? Yellowman94Talk • I am the yellow man. That's what they call me, cos that's what I am. 00:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- They still don't counter WP:BLP1E. He set records in a game and that's it. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok. So for someone to have a Wikipedia entry they have to be notable. A lot of people play Guitar Hero, so in some contexts he is very notable, and as a world record holder he is notable anyway. But then they have to be notable for more than one event. Ok: he has broken several world records in that category and his YouTube channel is the biggest Guitar Hero channel on the site. Yellowman94Talk • I am the yellow man. That's what they call me, cos that's what I am. 12:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- They still don't counter WP:BLP1E. He set records in a game and that's it. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I referenced the Guinness World Records site for each record, as well as the New York Times, how are they not reliable sources? Yellowman94Talk • I am the yellow man. That's what they call me, cos that's what I am. 00:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- With the notable exception of the link you provided in the article I can't find any reliable sources. Typing that search term into Google gives me lots of social networks, blogs, wikis and Youtube results but they aren't reliable. I think what a record is achieved in does make a difference. For example, the marathon has been run competitively for over a century, so it is notable and holding a world record time is notable. Breaking the marathon world record would result in news articles in mainstream media across the world. In comparison a record high score in a computer game is trivial and breaking it would pass the world by in near silence. This is the acid test for inclusion because the notability guidelines require significant independent reliable coverage - and it doesn't seem to exist. QU TalkQu 00:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/redirect to this section on Cultural impact of Guitar Hero where Johnson's already mentioned. --MASEM (t) 14:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep, since he did break more than one world record. I find the merge suggested by Masem an acceptable alternative. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 20:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Apart from the youtube reference all other references meet notability guidelines. Plus I found this MSN NBC article that also seems to be a genuine independent article. --Wikishagnik (talk) 19:27, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge or delete obvious WP:BLP1E, holds an unimpressive record. Secret account 18:33, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.