Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Samonas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 08:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Samonas

BLP with no reliable sources provided. Unable to find any. No significant roles. Not notable. SummerPhD (talk) 18:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - had the lead in Coach Shane, a significant role in Little Men , and "co-starring guest role" in Wizards of Waverly Place. Additionally, he has a significant role in The Least of These (completed by not yet released). That should be enough to meet WP:ENT. No great sources on GNews, but presumably their is better coverage out there. (For example, critical reviews of his acting). --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article has now been expanded and sourced. With respects to the nom's search, it wasn't too difficult to find stuff on this 'tween heart-throb. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep He is a very notable actor and the article is sourced greatly now. And as you can see by his filmography he has had a lot of signicant roles, such as Wizards of Waverly Place, Litttle Men, and The Least of These. His entire career makes him very notable. PeterGriffin11298 (talk) 20:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Well Sourced now. Notability has been asserted. Hitro 09:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete With all due respect, The above strong keep votes are wholly inconsistent with our notability rules, specifically WP:ACTOR. These are not starring roles or even significant roles. The alleged starring role in Coach Shane is not a mainstream release, being an amateur effort that's only 22 minutes long. The "production company" is just the writer/director, and it's not released through any distributor or anything... it's essentially hardly any better than a video released on YouTube. Big deal. This person simply has not even come close to having met the standards for notability at this time. He may some day, but it's clearly not now. DreamGuy (talk) 00:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "WP:ACTOR" is a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers, not to a guideline. Our inclusion guidelines begin with WP:V, WP:N and WP:GNG which he passes. Perhaps you meant to refer to attributes listed at WP:ENT, which are subordinant to the inclusion criteria of WP:GNG, as WP:BIO specifically states "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 08:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Strong speed keep~~(voted above) he has appeared in several television shows and movies, recurring roles in 2 tv shows, and The Last Day of Summer, and he had a major film with Jennette McCurdy. You don't know what you are talking about. Starred in an episode of iCarly, and just look at his filmography, and how it is sourced and his other achievements. He has appeared in starring roles and significant roles in both Television series and movies, DreamGuy doesn't know what he's talking about. He has the lead roles in future films too. PeterGriffin11298 (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You already said Keep above, you don't get to !vote twice. And I have looked at the filmography, which is why I can say without reservation that this person doesn't meet our criteria for having an article. Those roles are not lead roles in any major production. What "starring" roles? A guest spot on a single episode, which you claimed was a starring role on iCarly, is nothing like a starring role. DreamGuy (talk) 00:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GNG is the applicable inclusion criteria. If an article topic meets WP:GNG and Basic Criteria, one need not go to the attribute sections to then find reasons for exclusion. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.}

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