Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Carvajal (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 05:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Carvajal

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Cliff Smith 18:18, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that he will play for Bayer Leverkusen. This is speculation in violation of WP:CRYSTAL and not grounds for notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:58, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'm not sure how this is speculation when the deal has already gone through? [1] [2] are both from Leverkusen's official website. Morhange (talk) 04:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That he's signed for Leverkusen is not speculation, but that he will actually play any matches for them is. WP:NSPORT explicitly says that players who have signed but not played for a fully pro club are not notable. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:24, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:00, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Ya, he may play for Leverkusen soon but none the less as of this moment he fails NFOOTY and 100% fails GNG. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 18:29, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 08:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to this page, his transfer fee was 5 million euros. So let's keep it for now and if he completely fails to appear for Leverkusen's first team, we can delete the article.

http://www.soccerway.com/players/daniel-carvajal-ramos/145430/

None of this has any bearing on notability, and if deleted, the article can be restored at the click of a button. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Can be quickly restored if he ever plays for Leverkusen. Number 5 7 08:59, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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