Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DWFL-FM

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DWFL-FM[edit]

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Such a hoax station, just a mashup of the stations MOR 101.9 For Life!, Natural 97.9, 96.3 Easy Rock, 106.7 Energy FM, and 101.1 Yes! FM. It is just clearly a hoax. Hamham31 Heke!KushKush! 13:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:31, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment With a home page and Facebook account, it is NOT clearly a hoax article. Sure, the sources are dodgy (the homepage "about" link directs to this article, for instance), but if this station has a registered website, it's not a hoax. ArcAngel (talk) ) 14:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to be fair, its website is on Weebly rather than its own domain (something which most, though perhaps admittedly not all, radio stations with websites would have) — and it's not unheard of for people to create websites for things (even radio stations sometimes) that exist only in their own imaginations. Not that those things prove that it's a hoax, necessarily — but the existence of a website doesn't inherently prove that it's not, either. Bearcat (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I'm concerned, this is an extremely badly-written and entirely unsourced article that's dancing right on the edge of being speediable as advertising/promotion in its current form. I can't satisfactorily answer the question of whether it's a hoax or not — it could just be a pirate radio station or a webstream (but those don't get automatic presumptions of notability under WP:NMEDIA), or it could indeed be a hoax page (it's not unheard of for people to create webpages for fantasy organizations that don't really exist, which is why we insist on reliable source coverage rather than taking the existence of a webpage as prima facie evidence of notability), or it could be just a badly written advert for a real radio station.

I don't have the depth of knowledge about Philippine media that would be necessary to really answer that — for instance, I wouldn't know where to even begin searching for any actual evidence of its existence or lack thereof, such as whether it has a broadcasting license or not. But that said, my suspicions are certainly raised by (a) the fact that its brand name is just the brand names of four other stations in the same market hinged together (real radio stations do not do this unless their management team failed Marketing 101); and (b) the fact that according to the Metro Manila radio market template, there's another station, DWBM-FM, first-adjacent to the frequency that this station claims to be on (and another one first-adjacent to the frequency that this one claims to have started out on, too). But that's virtually impossible, because nobody would be able to actually listen to either station's signal due to all the cross-channel leakage.

But the fact that I can't definitively prove that it's a hoax doesn't really matter, since it's a bad and unsourced article that can't be kept in this form regardless of whether it's real or a hoax. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can cite proper sourcing to prove that it really exists as a real, properly licensed radio station — but in this form it's an absolute delete. Bearcat (talk) 17:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Bearcat said pretty much what I had to, but the fact that the 'station' depends on a Weebly to host their website and the MS-Paint/Paint.net quality station logos, the 13 Facebook 'likes' and the station's Twitter linking to an 'owner' who doesn't seem to be out of junior high make me think this 'station' has no broadcast tower and is another radiofan pipe dream who is solely webstreaming. Nate • (chatter) 02:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. This is an obvious hoax. Also, I did a quick research about the author of this article. It seems that a 15 year old kid did this and all of the uploaded pictures here are also in his social media accounts. -WayKurat (talk) 13:05, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Take off the air - Hoax. Nuff said. Also, I can recall once tuning in to near the claimed frequency (possibly while looking for radio stations to listen to), and around 104.9 it's just static. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:32, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Just to add in my vote, the admin that will close this discussion might consider deleting all the images uploaded by this user as well. If those photos still remain here, he might just recreate the article and use them again. Here is the list of photos:

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