Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dörthe Hoppius

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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 21:20, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dörthe Hoppius[edit]

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Fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:NCOLLATH Mightytotems (talk) 22:42, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems (talk) 22:42, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems (talk) 22:42, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:59, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 11:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per GS. Polyamorph (talk) 16:37, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. No notability has been shown. Sorely fails WP:GNG and does not meet WP:NFOOTBALL. AuthorAuthor (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. She plays in the top-tier league in Germany. That NFOOTY argues for keeping tens of thousands of articles on one-game male players who could not pass GNG in a million years but tries to suggest that top-tier women players aren't notable isn't a problem with the articles or the topics, it's a problem with Wikipedia:WikiProject Football that needs correcting urgently. The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:25, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Here are some tips for improving the article to demonstrate WP:GNG: 1) Translate the German article; 2) incorporate references available on German Google. 3) Update refs and expand content, including college career info that is available in English. See also WP:ATD. Hmlarson (talk) 00:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She plays in a top tier league (Frauen-Bundesliga). Meets WP:NFOOTY. End of story. And before anyone comes at me with a claim that most female leagues aren't included, that's because of a major failing of every Wikiproject Football member on every level, whose biases on not documenting women's football is atrocious. Silver seren^C 05:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails NFOOTY. --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She meets NFOOTY, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Leagues. She plays in a top division league. Silver seren^C 23:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - Article about semi-pro footballer which appears to satisfy the GNG. Hoppius has become an established regular player in the German top division and receives more than routine coverage in online German-language sources (although much of it appears to be very local in nature). I've fleshed out the article a bit with some of these sources and think it's just enough to satisfy the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 17:55, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - here is a table showing sources that go towards meeting the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 19:47, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://www.ikz-online.de/sport/lokalsport/duisburg/torjaegerin-doerthe-hoppius-verlaesst-den-msv-duisburg-id216831079.html	Iserlohner Kreisanzeiger und Zeitung is an independent newspaper	Regional newspaper in Märkischer Kreis	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
https://www.dorstenerzeitung.de/lokalsport-dorsten/doerthe-hoppius-kickt-fuer-san-jose-345735.html	Dorstener Zeitung is an independent newspaper	? Local newspaper for Dorsten	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail	? Unknown
https://www.dorstenerzeitung.de/lokalsport-dorsten/vom-msv-duisburg-zum-sc-sand-das-erste-bundesliga-jahr-von-doerthe-hoppius-plus-1417038.html	Dorstener Zeitung is an independent newspaper	? Local newspaper for Dorsten	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail	? Unknown
https://www.muensterlandzeitung.de/lokalsport-dorsten/kristallklarer-ozean-und-ueberlastete-kanalisation-26695.html	Blog written by Hoppius published by independent newspaper	? Local edition for Münster of regional newspaper Ruhr Nachrichten	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✘ No
https://themw.com/news/2016/10/16/580301d3e4b061a295745bde_131372581066764545.aspx?path=wsoc	? Hoppius was an athlete playing in the Mountain West Conference	? Press release from US collegiate athletics conference	The source discusses the subject directly but in little detail	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Weak keep per above scrapes through WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:41, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per Silver seren. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 16:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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