Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cultural depictions of Sammy Davis, Jr. (third nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. WjBscribe 01:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Cultural depictions of Sammy Davis, Jr. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
The most recent individual AfD on this article was overturned by DRV on the grounds that the content was clearly unencyclopedic. Please consult the DRV before commenting here. The matter is submitted for new AfD consideration. This is a procedural relisting, so I abstain. Xoloz 16:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as trivia. --FateClub 16:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is clutching at straws; WP:TRIVIA is an essay. Please explain what policy it fails or why Wikipedia is better without this article. John Vandenberg 07:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. None of these depictions are at all notable (or even, really, depictions), except for The Rat Pack (film), which could simply be under a "see also" in the main article or at Rat Pack. There's also a reference to a musical with unknown writers that's been there since... let's see... since June '06 when it was added to the Sammy Davis, Jr. article by an anon, who never made another contribution: [1]. This should give an idea about the level of attention the article receives. There's no need to merge anything, all the items are in the history of Sammy Davis, Jr.. Mangojuicetalk 17:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete already - how many more times do we have to go through this? 2/3 of the people who commented in the last AFD wanted the article deleted. 70% of the people commenting in the DRV wanted overturn and delete. How much more of a consensus does there need to be to delete the damn article already? Why does this have to go through yet another AFD when the message of delete could not have been any louder? As I've said repeatedly, the article is an indiscriminate collection of information and a directory seeking to capture every meaningless mention of SD Jr in any medium regardless of how pointless the mention is. Get rid of the thing. Otto4711 18:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This is a classic indiscriminate list, which violates WP:NOT. It has no sources, so it violates WP:V and WP:RS. It pretty much consists of nothing but trivia, so it also violates WP:AVTRIV - if having a trivia section is bad, having an entire trivia article must be worse. Get rid of it already. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 21:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- No sources? Rubbish! Each entry provides an exact reference to a work that is being mentioned, which can be checked. John Vandenberg 07:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - referring to Sammy Davis Jr in a song is not a pop culture depiction of him. Things, animals, etc named for Sammy Davis Jr are not pop culture depictions of him. Songs sung by Sammy Davis Jr are not pop culture depictions of him. If you trim out all of these, there are exactly 6 items in this article, none of which are sourced. This article should be deleted. --Haemo 22:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The information is verifiable and not indiscriminate. Each entry does not need to be notable provided that when they are pulled together like this, the list is notable -- i.e. this list of cultural references is far more valuable than most other similar lists that could be compiled about other people. Like was mentioned in the previous Afd, I think the works of Sammy Davis Jr do not belong on this article (e.g. theme song to Baretta); they should be moved onto the main article if they are not already there. John Vandenberg 07:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Poster child for the indiscriminate list of unsourced trivia: WP:NOT#IINFO and WP:NOR refer. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, agree with Crotalus horridus. This is an indiscriminate list. The citations need to establish the presence of articles discussing cultural depictions of Sammy Davis, Jr. Citations to the cultural depictions themselves do not establish notability. - Aagtbdfoua 23:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per Angus and my comments at the DRV. Random collection of unencyclopedic trivial facts. Moreschi Want some help? Ask! 11:09, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.