Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cubone

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 14:19, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cubone

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Non-notable Pokemon with no SIGCOV. Most refs in the article are listicles of "the ___ (creepiest, disturbing, etc) Pokemon". Alternative to deletion is redirecting to the list article List of generation I Pokémon. Natg 19 (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Natg 19 (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Natg 19 (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Natg 19 (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but rewrite: has some sources with [1], [2], [3], and [4]. It also has [5], but I am unsure about it's reliablity. Current article needs guidence. Please also remember to Please do not bite the newcomers (Oinkers42) (talk) 13:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This doesn't look great, but his sad story has been mentioned in passing even by scholarly media, for example [6]. I wish I had access to [7] as it may be in-depth but I can't find it anywhere, and I can't assume it is in-depth (it may or may not be). That said, what I see is hardly in-depth. I'll wait to see what others can dig up. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Piotrus: I have access to the second source you provided. It has around one page of content regarding the story of Cubone's mother in the games, with half of it providing a description of what happens and the other half providing synthesis. Here is a snippet: Rather than simply frame the undead Marowak as a violent ghost, easy enough for video games to accomplish, the most recent version seeks instead to present our contact with dead loved ones as something that can bring healing. This presents the deceased not as inanimate or hostile bodies, but as agential and in continued possession of their best qualities from life. The encounter with Cubone’s mother is an emotional highpoint for the game that feels as if it could be at home in games purpose built to engage with death..
I believe the scholarly article provides SIGCOV of both Cubone and Marowak's backstory. Jumpytoo Talk 22:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jumpytoo, Thank you.I'll sit on the fence for now, while seeing if this is improved and/or more sources found. Ping two experienced rescuers of such topics: User:Daranios, User:Toughpigs. (Note: I'd have improved it myself but the sources I saw and had access too didn't seem to contain much to use - but perhaps others can succeed where I gave up). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - restore as previous. Coverage is all not significant enough to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and improve per Oinkers42 and the sources suggested by Piotrus. Haleth (talk) 17:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hmm, I did not realize this, but as Onel5969 alluded to, this was a redirect since 2016 until an IP editor created this as an article a few days ago. Natg 19 (talk) 17:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This Pokemon has had enough synthesis and persistent coverage that makes it non-ROTM compared to the other Pokemon that have been AfD'ed recently, as per the sourcing provided by Oinkers and Piotrus. Jumpytoo Talk 22:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article makes my eyes bleed, but there's a satisfactory amount of coverage to show notability. Mlb96 (talk) 05:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep While the article could use improvement, I think the sources brought up so far are enough to show that the subject is notable. A merge to List of generation I Pokémon would in my view be preferable to deletion, but if the existing source material was used, it would bloat that list. Therefore a merge would be worse solution that keeping the article. Daranios (talk) 07:13, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I feel it passes coverage, and I think nominating an article that was only just created for deletion is behavior that would make someone less interested in participating in the Wiki. Discussing this kind of thing with the article creator(s) before rushing to deletion is preferable. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 01:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per WP:NEXIST but prune heavily of listicles and other trivial coverage._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, obvious notability, extensive coverage. Pikavoom (talk) 05:35, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Has enough coverage for notabilityJackattack1597 (talk) 10:39, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.