Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crevier BMW

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 07:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Crevier BMW

A car dealership... article shows no reasons for it to be any more notable than any other car dealership... G-news hits appear to be mostly press release type entries... Adolphus (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete just an ad/vanity page for a nn business. JJL (talk) 01:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I declined the A7 speedy because the of the claim of being #1 BMW dealer in the western region (this news story from 2002 says top in the whole U.S.), and because it did have a few other news hits including some award for their web site. But I don't have strong feelings about whether that's enough to pass a full AfD. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~. This does indeed scrape through the A7 speedy criteria, but without sources it completely fails WP:CORP. It really appears to be just another car dealership, even if it is a fairly large one. ~ mazca ^t|c 17:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Per the improvements below, it appears that the overt unverifiability problem has been solved. Though this still makes a pretty poor encyclopedia article it seems to just about scrape over the notability threshold. Consider me neutral. ~ mazca ^t|c 18:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I tried to reference all statements in the article. I think it barely meets WP:CORP (by the skin of its teeth), and being the top US seller of BMWs confers some degree of notability, and is verifiable. LinguistAtLarge • Msg 20:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note - There are also assertions of receiving multiple awards [1], [2], including the Time Magazine Quality Dealer Award. LinguistAtLarge • Msg 20:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This Time Magazine Quality Dealer Award appears to be an award that is given at various levels, (i.e. city, state, national) Unless it went National, I believe that would open the door to hundreds, if not thousands of articles for dealerships. However, reading the allbuisness article, establishes notability: "In 2005 Crevier BMW ranked eighth on the Ward's Dealer Top 500 List" the list is a nationwide list, and with its coverage in local press, it might be a keeper, if the article can be expanded. Sephiroth storm (talk) 10:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.