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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. JForget 00:06, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creed Live[edit]

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KEEP ! I will answer you with pride ! Creed's FULL CIRCLE (album) page was created long before date of release was....released. WE didn't know how many songs were gonna be on it, nor the lenght, nor the lyrics, nor the singles ! But the page was there ! Ready to be completed in the same moment new news were out. And, just to answer you, I HAVE UPDATES NOW !

First of all, the release date was stated by MARK TREMONTI himself and confirmed here as 8 DECEMBER 2009 ! http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/artist/Creed/a/Creed.htm

Second, WE KNOW THE SONGS that are gonna appear on it ! It's the concert in HOUSTON !

Third, read this ! http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=30374294520&share_id=172202716283&comments=1#s172202716283

IN this post Mark underlines that not only CREED LIVE is a solid and decided project, but that also that on Thursday November 19th, 2009, in selected theaters, people and fans will be able to see the concert AS A MOVIE first time in history !

Now, do I need to tell you more ?200.88.86.4 (talk) 19:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Facebook is not a reliable source. [redacted because I was cranky] Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously I think you're joking... THIS is an OFFICIAL statement made by the GUITARIST of the band ! I can't believe what I'm reading... And the link I posted about CDUNIVERSE.COM where YOU CAN SEE that the album will be out on the 8th of December ? I guess this is a reliable source, right ? OR NOT ? And the tracklist of the album ? WE KNOW IT ! It's the live show in Houston ! Go on youtube ! There's the full concert ! BUT I guess that for you even this is not a reliable source, right ? WHAT the hell is a reliable source for you ?!?200.88.86.4 (talk) 22:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Something secondary. A news source, a magazine, a newspaper, a reputable website (CD Universe is not reputable as a secondary source, since it's a sales site). Ask Alan Leifting, the AFD nominator. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 00:43, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the last one who likes to use the "attack the other's reputation" tactic, but for what I saw Alan is not new to impulsive "markin for deletion"... And not only this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIldzGgZCco This is the youtube video of the announcement of the theatrical event...well FROM SECOND 58 TO SECOND 60 under the credits YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE "CREED LIVE DVD COMING SOON" Now, do you have anything else to say ? 201.229.209.174 (talk) 05:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • YouTube is not a reliable source. There should be no reason to cite a YouTube video. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:05, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete WP:NALBUMS Crafty (talk) 06:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Lack of independent sources, falls short of WP:NALBUMS...for now. But I want to stress to the anonymous poster above, there's absolutely nothing preventing you from coming back and creating this article again in a few months after those independent sources pop up. But they've got to be acceptable sources, as Ten Pound Hammer said, like news or magazine articles or some other secondary source. See WP:SOURCES before you try this article again, or it will only be deleted again... — Hunter Kahn (c) 16:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NALBUMS and WP:HAMMER. Sluggo | Talk 12:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A-A-A...Sluggo, the WP:HAMMER you say is not good here, cause we know the name of the album AND the tracklist...
It's CREED LIVE and the tracklist is the one of the concert in Houston, freely available on Youtbe66.98.12.176 (talk) 18:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No. YouTube is not an acceptable source. Until a reliable third-party publication lists the tracks, we have no source for the tracklist. Sluggo | Talk 20:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We really don't have a source for a track listing? Go buy the DVD. It's right there. Is that not enough of a source? - <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Live_Light>Live Light</url>

  • Comment: An IP posted a hangon on the article, and I have removed it because the article is not tagged for speedy deletion. The following is the posts on the talk page of the article:

Cunard (talk) 00:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Here comes your damned press release, cancelling-maniac...http://guitarinternational.com/wpmu/2009/11/24/creed-brings-reunion-tour-%E2%80%98full-circle%E2%80%99-with-first-ever-live-concert-dvd-%E2%80%98creed-live%E2%80%99/ Was it too difficult to wait two weeks ? And I said two weeks because the date of the press conference is 24 November.. YOU IDIOTS CANCELLERS !201.229.209.152 (talk) 05:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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