Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craig Pospisil

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 02:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Pospisil[edit]

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This is a non-notable, the article reads more like the writer's curriculum vitae than even the merest biography. A search for any real news outlet (non-trade publication) mentioning him draws a blank. Vinithehat (talk) 16:50, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why are non-trade publications not valid? Those are the organizations that cover the theater world. They would seem to be real news outlets. Furthermore, I have listed listed references from the Los Angeles Times and NPR.

And if my article in flawed, why is this article valid? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Braun. The sources in this article are from the author's own website. Or this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Flannery. This one has no references whatsoever. And this article is very similar to the one I created, but also has no references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Jude_Ferrante. Why are these articles for no more "notable" authors not being considered for deletion? I ask because I did research on similar authors and tried to create this page in line with what I found for those. How can I make my article on this author better, in your opinion?

something of note: Go to the LA Times website and search for "Craig Pospisil" - 0 results. The LA Times reference in the article is not hosted by the LA Times and does not include a date of publication, section or page. It is a Calendarlive publication. As for NPR: the interview referenced is with Lawrence Feeney, not Craig Pospisil, who is only mentioned in the interview. The interview, mind, is focused on the A train plays, as is the Calendarlive article. The remaining "references" mostly just make mention of Craig Pospisil; they do not write about him. This is one work of minor note (a strictly local production, especially considering its nature - this does not create notability. Vinithehat (talk) 18:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep From reading the article I got the impression that his work has only been produced in very minor venues; however, a search of Google News Archive [1] finds 10 pages of items (in real newspapers, not trade papers) about his plays being produced here and there - especially a play called Months on End which seems to have been very widely produced. One of his plays even got a brief mention in the New York Times. The article needs improving to reflect this type of coverage. --MelanieN (talk) 05:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per MelanieN. Peter Karlsen (talk) 00:29, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While trade publications may be obscure, if they are edited by an independent source they do meet our definition of reliable sources, and satisfy our notability requirements. EnabledDanger (talk) 01:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per User:MelanieN. But it needs a rewrite. Spatulli (talk) 13:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.