Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Compact Disc shattering (2nd nomination)

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The result was merge to Optical disc drive. Sandstein 12:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Compact Disc shattering

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Officially submitting AFD for Towardsabetterwiki, who submitted one a month ago that wasn't properly formatted. Here are the contents of the original nomination:

Nothing notable here. Mythbusters fan boys can go elsewhere on the web. This article does not belong in an online encyclopedia.

No citations for "compact disk shattering" as something that actually ever happened. All we have is a link to a TV show where they caused a CD to shatter using conditions that never have been shown to occur in an actual Compact Disk drive. Fan boy articles for "Mythbusters" do not belong on wikipedia.

(X! · talk) · @243 · 04:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Merge and redirect to Optical disc drive#Rotational mechanism or a new sub-subsection thereof. Yes, CDs can shatter[1]. Hard drives can fail, trees can fall, and hailstones can damage cars. These and a billion and one other trivialities don't merit articles. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not even notable enough for a passing mention in the CD article. Lukeno94 (talk) 10:28, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Towardsabetterwiki is apparently not a fan of Mythbusters, but this article isn't about Mythbusters, it's about the CD shattering phenomenon. Reliable secondary sources discussing this in depth are a New York Times article and the PCWorld article mentioned by Clarityfiend. An education company posted a warning about CD shattering and prophylactic measures. Given the video evidence, the Mythbusters source is a reliable demonstration that such a thing is possible. Because they were testing an urban myth, they could perhaps be counted as a secondary source. Even if one discounts the Mythbusters experiment, however, there seem multiple independent secondary references to support notability for this topic; the article should be kept. Note this phenomenon is mentioned in the Optical disc drive article as being a real concern, to the point that some manufacturers have altered their rotational speed strategies. It is also mentioned in CD-ROM article. Mark viking (talk) 18:21, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By your definition, slates falling off the roof of buildings also deserves an article... Lukeno94 (talk) 19:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I try not to judge how deserving a topic is of an article based on my personal biases. The general notability guides (see WP:GNG) and its specializations were created to help editors determine whether a topic is worthy of inclusion independent of personal biases. It's not perfect, but it is the best we have. My keep recommendation was based on finding multiple reliable secondary sources with a quick Google and Wikipedia search. Mark viking (talk) 21:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 21:19, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm personally not judging it based from personal bias. We do not have an article for every single type of failure there is, nor should we. There is no article on car brake failure, for example, and nor should there be. The issue of CDs shattering is nowhere near important enough to warrant an article, regardless of if it meets GNG or not. Lukeno94 (talk) 09:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How about merging to somewhere in Optical disc drive? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:57, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge This ironically happened to me, aside from that this can be merged to Optical disc drive JayJay^{Talk to me} 01:10, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge The information seems to be notable, having been reported in reliable sources. I'm not sure if it should have its own article or just a section in another article. BigJim707 (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And why isn't there an article on car brake failure? BigJim707 (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge It definitely has some coverage in reliable sources. But there's no reason why it can't be included in the main article Optical disc drive. We don't have a separate article about every danger of a product or every product recall. The title isn't very descriptive, either, since the article only refers to disks breaking at speed. --Colapeninsula (talk) 17:18, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.