Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Commoner Party of Thailand

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 19:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Commoner Party of Thailand[edit]

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non notable political party. Nothing found in a before search of much interest Dom from Paris (talk) 15:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Plenty of coverage, including these articles in English[1][2] and more in Thai.[3][4][5][6][7][8] It's a minor party which hasn't had the chance to contest any elections yet, but the support it has received from prominent activists and scholars is significant. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:38, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul 012: could you indicate from when these Thai sources date? I am on a mobile and can't convert the Thai dates. Are they just run of the mill coverage of the creation of the party? There are general elections coming up in 3 months I believe, have they announced candidates? Do we have an idea of how many members the party has ? This might give us an idea of the significance of the party. As mentioned below there is a new party with the same name are they linked? I can't connect to their web site, on their Facebook page they seem to be reposting coverage from 2013 and 2014. Thanks. Dom from Paris (talk) 09:07, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Domdeparis, All of the above links are about this party, not the other one. While most cover the party announcement, the Voice TV programme is presumably an in-depth interview with the founder (presumed because the video isn't loading for me). The Kom-Chad-Luek article is from this January, and contains political analysis of the possibility that an influential businessman will be running for election under the party. Elections being held on 24 February is still a big if, and the official decree will not be made until after 10 December. That said, I haven't seen recent in-depth coverage of the party, but there's plenty of passing mention that indicates it is very much expected to be active in the upcoming election. The Election Committee lists 23 registered members for the party (keep in mind that political activities were banned shortly after the party's registration). --Paul_012 (talk) 10:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul 012:Yes I saw that this is not a good period for democracy in Thailand. Oddly enough this is not something we hear a lot about here in Europe (or at least in France). I'm not in a position to judge these sources but I trust your judgement and if you believe they are enough to meet the criteria please don't hesitate to !vote keep and I'll be happy to withdraw my nomination. Dom from Paris (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite confident yet either; I'll be happy to leave this discussion open for further input. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks for that, let's see what happens. cheers Dom from Paris (talk) 10:08, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ -- Clear pass of GNG. Another failure of WP:BEFORE. Note that nom's claim that nothing "of much interest" was found is a red herring. The value of sources is not dependent on what nom finds interesting. Besides sources in article and those listed above by Paul_012, see:
- - Commoner Party ready to take an uncommon approach
  - Commoner Party Seeks to Put the Poor in Parliament

192.160.216.52 (talk) 15:05, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You may not have noticed but the sources in the article refer to a commoner party founded in 2014 by Tanaporn Sriyakul.[9]. The 2 sources that you have added (that I also found) mention a party "the new Commoners Party," founded by Kittichai Ngamchaipisit and Chumaporn Taengkliang, in 2018. They do not seem to be the same party hence my nomination as the sources for the 2014 party are seriously lacking. When carrying out a before search it is important to read the details of the sources, which I did, nothing suggests these sources talk about the same party, but I may be wrong. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My use of "of interest" is in the sense of attracting attention and not what I personally find interesting. My apologies if this was not clear, the English language can be a fickle thing sometimes. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:44, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good point about the parties. The tags at the Nation suggest they're the same, but that's as likely as not to be an error. Withdrawing my !vote. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 18:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Dom from Paris (talk) 00:55, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 22:56, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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