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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Peter Karlsen (talk) 01:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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A thoroughly non-notable street. I prodded the article with the rationale of "No evidence of real significance, let alone notability", but the prod was removed without comment by the author. Nyttend (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. A couple of sites support its claim to be the main street of Christchurch[1][2] (though apparently nothing newsworthy happens there). Clarityfiend (talk) 21:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - It's actually the main street in Christchurch.[3] It runs right into the the Cathedral. Also, nominating an article of a major street in the 2nd largest city of a nation within 8 hours of article creation is not helpful to editors and only serves to discourage new ones.--Oakshade (talk) 06:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No actual evidence has been provided for its being the most important street in Christchurch, and anyway I wasn't the one who originally called for its deletion or the one who restored the prod after the creator removed it. Nyttend (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- [4] From the Christchurch "City Layout" section:
- "Colombo Street is the main street running nort-south to the Port Hills." (emphasis mine)
- And it was you who nominated this article for deletion within 7 hours of it's creation. [5] --Oakshade (talk) 16:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Because no solid evidence was presented for it being anything significant: an article that doesn't deserve to stand shouldn't be forgotten about, as this one would have been if I'd only removed the speedy tag. Moreover, claims of being a main street leading to ___ aren't claims of importance, and anyway unsourced claims of being anything aren't good enough for notability. Nyttend (talk) 22:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- To me "is considered the main road of the city" is presented as being anything significant. --Oakshade (talk) 00:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Because no solid evidence was presented for it being anything significant: an article that doesn't deserve to stand shouldn't be forgotten about, as this one would have been if I'd only removed the speedy tag. Moreover, claims of being a main street leading to ___ aren't claims of importance, and anyway unsourced claims of being anything aren't good enough for notability. Nyttend (talk) 22:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- [4] From the Christchurch "City Layout" section:
- Keep Street is notable per location and company. HeartSWild (talk) 10:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Company? Nyttend (talk) 14:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - May be notable in being the main road in Christchurch. Dough4872 19:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete Being a main road doesn't really make it notable. If someone can prove that important events have happened here then I will probably change my mind.Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:27, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep expansions and reading Grutness' essay has made me reconsider. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. —Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:27, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Moderately strong keep. Notable, historic street, main street of a city of 300,000 people, which means it easily reaches the WP:50k level. It's linked from a considerable number of other articles, too (eighteen, to be precise). Needs expansion, not deletion. Will start that expansion. Grutness...wha? 07:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that similarly prominent streets in other major New Zealand cities (e.g., Princes Street, Dunedin, Lambton Quay, Queen Street, Auckland) are assessed as Mid-importance by WP:WPNZ. This one should be likewise. Grutness...wha? 07:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep. If you'd asked me which Christchurch street is the most notable, I would have said 'Colombo Street' without any hesitation. Steeped in history, development of the city often happened on Colombo Street first, it goes through the central city square that is the undisputed city centre, it's the longest straight main street in NZ. In recent history, it was one of the first three bus priority corridors in Christchurch, and is now one of the two areas that suffers most through earthquake damage (the historic strip shopping area through Sydenham; the other one being Manchester Street in the central city). It's also the only street that I know that has its weekly traffic peak on a Saturday night at 11 pm (but heh, that's WP:OR. Granted, any editor not familiar with Christchurch wouldn't know this from the shape of the article when it got prodded. I have no doubt that the article will soon be something much more substantial. Schwede66 18:10, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Print references such as Wises New Zealand Guide and Canterbury visitors guide describe it as the main street. dramatic (talk) 20:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - major street in an important-enough town, with sources available. TheGrappler (talk) 00:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.