Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colombian voice actor
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Zero prejudice towards individual renominations - too many factors exist to close this discussion as anything else. Regards, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 20:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Several Colombian voice actors[edit]
I discovered this list of articles, all of which are basically orphans, and are all about Spanish language voice actors who work for an anime dubbing studio in Colombia and have all been authored by Wolfang (talk · contribs) (who is one of the subjects). These are all effectively non-notable biographies of living persons that have barely any coverage to begin with. The only instances of possible assertions of notability have come about because they have done voice work for anime in Colombia and nowhere else. These people do not have biographies on the Spanish language project, where they have even bigger anime nerds than the English language project as far as I've seen. All of these are unreferenced biographies of people with barely any notability, and there is a severe conflict of interest as the author is a subject and co-worker to the whole list. While dub actors can be notable, there is simply no reason to keep this group of Spanish language dubbers of anime on the English Wikipedia. If these people were in any way mentioned on the Spanish Wikipedia, I might believe they are notable, but their pages were deleted there.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 13:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. These people all seem to have multiple notable roles. - Eastmain (talk) 14:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Having notable roles voicing specific anime characters for the Latin American market does not infer notability. There is nothing to back up this information at all, and they were all produced by a single user with COI issues. I have expanded my deletion rationale to include this.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 14:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 14:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 14:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete it seems to me that it's highly unlikely that any independent reliable sources cover these dubbers in depth. If there are any, though, bring 'em on and add them to the articles. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:21, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, speedy close without prejudice to individual renominations. Group BLP nominations are problematic in general, and the nominator describes the subjects as having "marginal" notability, a strong enough signal that individual consideration should be required. The range of credits the individual subjects claim is considerable, in some cases including title roles in notable productions. The emphasis the nominator places on the dubbing language seems inappropriate, since there is no claim that the Spanish Latin America market is insignificant or trivial. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:02, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Just because this is a group nomination does not in any way mean that it should be closed. All of these articles are related (all in the same company, all Colombian, all authored by Wolfang (talk · contribs)), all are unreferenced, and all are equally not notable. Just because I use the word "marginal" should not mean that there should be 30 separate AFDs when one will suffice. Why should I bother with 30 individual nominations when this group nom will serve the same purpose? It seems to me that making 30 nominations is more disruptive than making one group one.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 16:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete Strong delete for all improperly referenced BLP's. A BLP without a valid REF is a nightmare waiting to happen (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep ALL and time to fix one-at-a-time. If Columbian voice actors might be difficult to source in mainstream English sources, it's time to get input from Columbian wikipedians. Perhaps ask for an assist from WP:CSB. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- These are not Colombian actors. These are a group of dubbing voice actors who are all Colombian and have no coverage outside of the English Wikipedia and its mirrors, all authored by one subject as they are all his coworkers. The only other instance where I can find that these people exist outside of Wikipedia are their biographies on their websites. There is no use discussing the Spanish language adaptations of anime on the English Wikipedia, as it is not the focus of this project to discuss a Spanish language adaptation of a piece of Japanese language media in the English language.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you much for pointing out my shameful ommision of the word "voice". I have corrected that lapse. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- These are not Colombian actors. These are a group of dubbing voice actors who are all Colombian and have no coverage outside of the English Wikipedia and its mirrors, all authored by one subject as they are all his coworkers. The only other instance where I can find that these people exist outside of Wikipedia are their biographies on their websites. There is no use discussing the Spanish language adaptations of anime on the English Wikipedia, as it is not the focus of this project to discuss a Spanish language adaptation of a piece of Japanese language media in the English language.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Unbundle and renominate individually. Edward321 (talk) 15:08, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.