Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colby High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 02:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colby High School[edit]

Not notable, would fail Wikipedia:Schools John Reaves (talk) 04:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Alright, yes, I'm going to be completely biased because this is my high school, and I am the author of the original article. It has survived since October, and I've kept an eye on it for maintenance. I will admit that I wrote the article tongue in cheek, and it certainly needed some citations. NOW, though, user Noroton (talk · contribs) has done an amazing job of assembling (factual) information on Colby High School. And, though some of you may argue that it's not an article worth having on Wikipedia, I wholly disagree. As Sefringle (talk · contribs) commented, Wikipedia has many articles over schools many people wouldn't hear of otherwise. The notable alumni definitely helps my cause... it's not every opera singer that pops out of a conservative NW Kansas school. If you haven't been here, let me tell you, not succumbing to the pressure to be a farmer or housewife is an accomplishment (we live in 1950). By the way, Colby High School is on Google. --Buglindseybee 01:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unfortunately as it's a suprisingly well-written article, but makes no assertion of notability and a Google search isn't turning anything up. Catbag 04:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Well done article as said, but fails to assert notability for schools. - Denny 05:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep considering we have articles for hundreds of other non-notable high schools.--Sefringle 07:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Denny. We indeed have thousands of other articles on high schools. As long as it's a real school that is publically licenced I don't see a ground for deletion. Travelbird 08:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or WP:BJAODN You guys are kidding right? Are we reading the same page? From the article "Until 1995, Colby High School was located on Third Street, but the need for a larger building was recognized, and thus emerged the building that accommodates the students and teachers now. The building makes up for its lack of windows and originality with a large technology lab and a fully-stocked art room." This article is rediculous and unsourced, though it did give me a good laugh.EnsRedShirt 09:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep removed most if not all the copy vio. But it needs to be sourced badly... EnsRedShirt 04:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but only as a stub. It's a real school, but most of the information in this article is either original research, or a copyvio from http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/30941 . Strip out the speculation/satire and stick to the facts, and then the article's worth keeping. --El on ka 10:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -per nom —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Astrotrain (talk • contribs) 15:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Keep This is one of the better written notable high school articles. The article however; is original research and copyvio. Tagged with clean up, cited sources and added a reflist for the sources. --Masterpedia 16:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep High schools are inherently notable, as I argue here. Noroton 18:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Noroton, and I endorse much of his essay. Newyorkbrad 19:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete. I'm not sure where the concept of "inherently notable" comes from, but this Afd does not meet the WP notability guideline for organizations (which includes schools). The argument that it should be kept because WP has articles for hundreds of other non-notable high schools is specious -- we should be deleting those articles for the same reason. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vbd (talk • contribs) 22:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Delete Agree that high schools are important to those who attended them but this one, and many others, fail to meet the core notability requirement for any organization which includes schools. Warfieldian 23:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Schools are NOT inherently notable, and WP has thankfully been cracking down on these (I remember last summer it was almost impossible to delete an article on a high school if the school was real). This is just another non-notable school. TJ Spyke 00:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Noroton, though I think this article needs a few references and could to with a wikify.LordHarris 04:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Notable alumni has always been regarded as a factor in N. In this case there are, two, one widely known and one less so, which as the only N factor is borderline but in my opinion enough. DGG 07:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 15:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep WP:SCHOOLS is not a policy, I'm not sure how this would fare with beefstew, but there is a minor claim to notability in terms of the fact that there are multiple notable alumni. Willie Stark 19:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, I haven't been able to find a guideline that says that having "multiple" (in this case, two) notable alumni makes a high school notable. Can someone please point me to a source that says so? I know WP:SCHOOLS isn't a policy or guideline, but WP:ORG is and it doesn't mention notable alumni in its criteria for notability (neither does WP:SCHOOLS).--Vbd | (talk) 00:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a policy as much as it is implied and relies on common sense. If a school has produced multiple personalities which are notable for WP:BIO, the school is notable. You see something similar to this in WP:MUSIC when a newly formed band has multiple notable members. Policy mixes and changes. Willie Stark ^{"Believe in Me!"} 01:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It is a notable school, with notable alumni. --Carioca 03:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article does not have adequate independent references; since this is a bedrock requirement in our community the article fails. I don't feel that the claim of notability on alumni grounds is adequate, as everyone has to be educated somewhere. If notability transfers from a student to a school, why does it not transfer from a customer to a shop ? I do note that both cited alumni are musicians; if it can be shown that the school specifically develops musical talent in its pupils I'd be inclined to change my view, but otherwise I feel this should go. The assertion that all schools are notable I have addressed in many previous AfD debates; I am opposed to the idea that we should relax standards of notability for the special case of schools. WMMartin 15:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Its a interesting read and has a bunch of new Wikipedians contributing that haven't yet been formerly welcomed. Buglindseybee (talk · contribs) is doing a good job of keeping the vandalism under control. The claims to notability are borderline, but given a bit of time and guidance, additional rationale for keep may be found. If not, it can be renominated after a month if its not improving. John Vandenberg 14:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.