Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Col Anderson

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The result was keep. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Col Anderson[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO as the sources provided are only passing mentions. As such, any claims of notability in the article are questionable. Kirbanzo (talk) 15:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep meets WP:NAFL by playing more than one Victorian Football League match. Flickerd (talk) 08:41, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete 2 matches should not be enough to show notability. We need to move away from ludicrously low sports notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That's a separate discussion that's needed at WT:NSPORTS, this article currently meets a sports notability guideline. This AfD is not the appropriate place to say the guidelines should be changed and thus making this article an example. Flickerd (talk) 03:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 02:36, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep ~~Delete~~ Completely fails WP:GNG. Yes does meet WP:NAFL #2, but this is rediculously low. NSUBJECT does not trump GNG so fails according to current guidelines anyway. If the VFL related sources where more than just very basic routine match and game statistics reporting I might accept, but there seems to be none. Just compare NAFL to NBADMINTON just below it - badminton needs Olympic or national equivalent to be presumed notable. Aoziwe (talk) 03:07, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As per my above comment re further references, I am changing my !vote to a weakish keep as per Flickerd's article improvement work below. (AfD might not be the place to resolve notability guideline issues but it is certainly a place to raise them.) Aoziwe (talk) 12:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Commment I have added more information regarding his VFL career and life after his VFL career (where he played a significant amount of games in the SANFL and was a player-coach at Wagga) and there are independent sources about him that aren't just passing mentions, but articles written about him. Remember specific guidelines are there because sources aren't always as accessible as they are for people who compete today, and there is a presumed notability. In addition, although the requirement for badminton is the Olympics or national equivalent, that is because that is the pinnacle of the sport, whereas the VFL/AFL is the pinnacle of Australian rules football and that is why the guideline is at that level. As I said previously, issues with the level of notability required for WP:NAFL is a separate discussion needed at WT:NSPORTS (for which there was a discussion about a year ago, and the decision was to leave it as is), not an AfD. Flickerd (talk) 09:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, meets WP:NAFL, having played in the VFL, real football:) Coolabahapple (talk) 13:35, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the expanding and sourcing done by Flickerd. Sam Sailor 00:17, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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