Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Churches of Christ (non-Restoration Movement)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Churches of Christ in Europe. The general consensus seems to be to move the material elsewhere, by renaming or making it a subsection in a main article. The best compromise is a direct merge, which was supported in the discussion. Please merge the data into a new subsection and convert to a redirect or request deletion via speedy delete of the empty page. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:12, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Churches of Christ (non-Restoration Movement)

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redundant with Churches of Christ in Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 14 August 2016 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT - This article was originally added as the result of a discussion about the base Churches of Christ page. There were one or more editors who wanted to add some material about other groups that, while they use the same name, have no historical or organizational connection with the Churches of Christ that originated in the Restoration Movement. This isn't all that surprising, because there are certain terms that occur over and over in the names of Christian churches. I have no strong opinion about the notability of these other groups, or even whether it makes sense to discuss them as a unit. But it does seem reasonable to create a place to park material on groups that use the name "Church of Christ" but don't fit in the article until there's enough to do more detailed articles on each one. EastTN (talk) 20:31, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:46, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:55, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:55, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:55, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rename somehow. There seem to be a number of distinct or partly distinct church bodies that have used the same of similar names. I observe that there is an Australian article on a denomination whose routes were in US and GB. The GB denomination (merging into United Reformed in 1981) seems to derive from Alexander Campbell, but is stated to be distinct. The book by Grimm cited in this article is expressed to be about Europe. Since the book is a translation, I presume it is about Germany or some other continental country. I would suggest the appropriate solution is to have three articles of equal status Churches of Christ in America, Churches of Christ in Great Britain (I assume they did not function in Ulster), and Churches of Christ in Europe. It is unfortunate that the article tells us very little about what Grimm wrote. "Non-Restoration" is a horrid disambiguator. Despite the apparent geographic limitations of these names, I would see no reason why the various articles could not explore the relationships between these and the Australian and Canadian denominations (or lack of such). Church of Christ is an obvious name, which has been used in different ways at different times and in different places. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:46, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:54, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I take the rename comment above as a support to deleting. After all, Churches of Christ (non-Restoration Movement) and Churches of Christ in Europe are both about Churches of Christ in Europe while User:Peterkingiron suggests one article about Churches of Christ in Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not know enough about this church to know whether the appropriate outcome is to have a GB article and a (Continental) Europe one, or just one. I certainly want to lose the "Non-Restoration" disambiguator. As I said, I do not know what Grimm wrote and whether this may have been about a separate (say) German denomination. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Last relist Nordic Nightfury 14:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nordic Nightfury 14:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Churches of Christ in Europe. Neither of these seem to be a distinct name for a denomination, and anything useful from this article can be included there. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.