Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christos Gaitatzis

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 10:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christos Gaitatzis[edit]

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I couldn't find any reliable sources to verify the claims made in this completely unreferenced autobiography. The-Pope (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete - He's played in the Greek Gamma Ethniki for Marko and Visaltiakos. The information about Koropi seems incorrect since I couldn't find any record of him playing there. It's the third level of Greek football, but arguably is fully-pro, so he may meet NSPORTS. That said, I'm not sure he meets the GNG and it appears that the creator of the article has a COI. Jogurney (talk) 23:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify - did you find any reliable sources to confirm that he played in those leagues, or are you just going by what he's claimed to have done? I don't know enough about European football to know myself - but his Australian football experience is not at a fully pro level.The-Pope (talk) 23:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Gamma Ethniki's official website (epae.org) confirms (in Greek) that he played in the last round of the 2009–10 season for Visaltiakos (and in several other rounds as well). It also confirms that he played for Marko in the 2004–05 season. There are links provided to match reports verifying this on the article now. As GiantSnowman mentions below, we're not convinced that the Gamma Ethniki is indeed fully pro (it is described as a professional league, but its the third level in Greece and the typical club seems to have a ground with a capacity around 1,000). Jogurney (talk) 01:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As a follow up on the GNG, I did some google searches for his Greek name and found nearly no mentions (just wiki-scrapes) - which is probably because he's only spent a few months in the Gamma Ethniki during 2010 and last played at that level in 2004 and 2005. I really doubt he would pass the GNG, but perhaps someone with better google translate skills might prove me wrong. Jogurney (talk) 01:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Jogurney (talk) 23:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - to be honest, I have my concerns about him meeting WP:ATHLETE, and he definitely doesn't meet WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 00:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - per above. Although he may pass WP:ATHLETE, there is no clear indication as of yet that he does, and he clearly fails WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Per above. The article history is amusing. Argyle 4 Life^talk 13:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete regardless of ATHLETE, as the GNG is what matters. --W F C-- 22:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per GNG; GNG > Athlete Sandman888 (talk) 08:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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