Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christos Efthymiou

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The result was delete. NW (Talk) 17:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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These players all play for a team that is in the second tier of a semi-pro league system: They may even be amateur for all we know. They also fail WP:GNG. I have decided to bundle these because the articles are almost identical.

(I will strike those that no longer fail):

Giorgos Costa
Pieros Sotiriou
Nikolas Oratiou
Theodoros Loizou

Spiderone 12:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone 12:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all for failure of WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 13:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all: I pulled up a load of article on them. S-J-S-F-M-W (talk) 13:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Explain please Spiderone 15:21, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am striking the "keep all" above since the account is a sock puppet. Spiderone 06:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that you've alerted us to that finding, but as a general rule, we don't edit or strike or cross through comments made by other persons, and I'm unstriking it. The closing administrator will take possible sockpuppetry into account when weighing the opinions. Mandsford (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Under WP:ATHLETE, a player qualifies only if he is playing at the top professional level. The team was First Division up until the 2007-2008 season, but not last season and not this season; some of these athletes may not have played first division. Those that have, I think, would qualify. We had a debate recently on another situation where people were playing in the top division of the league of a relatively poor nation, and the argument was made that if a nation's best league isn't fully professional, then the language of WP:ATHLETE doesn't apply. I don't agree with that. The way WP:ATHLETE reads, the players in a nation's highest professional league get princess treatment, whether that nation is the U.S.A. or Cyprus. Mandsford (talk) 13:46, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it matters. Firstly, there's no evidence that they have played (a lot of them are teenagers) and even if they have played it wouldn't matter since they still fail as past AfDs have proven. Also look at the number of red links in teams such as Ethnikos Achna FC and Enosis Neon Paralimni FC Spiderone 15:21, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. The articles do not indicate that any of them actually play. To satisfy ATHLETE, they actually have to compete. Lara 18:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per nom. GauchoDude (talk) 22:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Steve-Ho (talk) 18:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per nom. Govvy (talk) 00:34, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per Spiderone and Lara. Eddie6705 (talk) 11:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.