Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Duffy (baseball)

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The result was keep. --BDD (talk) 00:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Duffy (baseball)[edit]

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Minor league baseball player who has had little success and is now in independent baseball. Had some minor recognition as a college player but college baseball all-americans arent inherently notable and the sources in the article are all of the routine variety.. Not enough for GNG. Spanneraol (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Spanneraol (talk) 19:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete, I guess~~- I found a few sources in my search for him, but they were mainly related to him signing with the Camden Riversharks, and were not solely about him, as they noted the signing of three others – very routine coverage. Other than that, pretty scant, and probably not passing WP:GNG and definitely not passing WP:BASEBALL/N — Preceding unsigned comment added by Go Phightins! (talk • contribs) 20:30, October 9, 2013

Weak keep - per Jrcla2; though the awards listed in the CFB award table to satisfy criterion 1 of WP:NCOLLATH, I suppose it is transferrable to baseball. As such, I change my !vote to weak keep. Go Phightins! 17:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I don't grant your premise that consensus college baseball All-Americans are not inherently notable,Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)/Archive_11#College_baseball_All-Americans really only reached a consensus that non-consensus All-Americans are not and seems to have split pretty evenly on the remaining question. Regardless, his college and minor league accomplishments, or lack thereof in regard to minor league, were recognized by a variety of different sources. Mizzou415 (talk) 23:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question If all consensus All-Americans should have pages, why is there a red link on the template on Duffy's page? – Muboshgu (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Answer Because not everyone sufficiently notable to have a wikipedia page has one already. Mizzou415 (talk) 23:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - We're talking about a guy who holds Conference USA records for batting average and slugging percentage etc. same conference as major schools like Memphis, Alabama, etc. Multiple sources are pretty clear and accurate. Minor success in college? I oppose that too, he was First-Team All American in every major category as well top 5 golden spikes finalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassmfs (talk • contribs) 03:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I disagree that being selected first team All-America by three of the four recognized selectors and a finalist for the top amateur player in the country award only qualifies as minor recognition. I see multiple feature articles on him from multiple sources. Billcasey905 (talk) 12:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These "multiple feature articles" you mention arent in the article... the only sources there are small articles that just mention him being nominated for awards or being involved in a transaction but don't have any indepth coverage, his college bio, and an interview he did with a Phillies blog... I don't see any substantial coverage. Spanneraol (talk) 14:03, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This aired on the MLB network, covering him as one of the finalist. You can also find this on the MLB website. http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=9913163&topic_id=12242402 here's another link http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=502008 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassmfs (talk • contribs) 01:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Just not nearly enough secondary coverage to justify an article for a 26th rounder whose never played above single-A. Kithira (talk) 13:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He was a consensus first team All-American, hardly a "minor" achievement. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:19, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I noted that as well, but could not find a relevant guideline or policy to call that grounds for meeting notability requirements. It's not in WP:BASEBALL/N ... is it somewhere? Go Phightins! 15:37, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NCOLLATH – #1, #3. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 15:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.