Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Williams (DJ)

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The result was delete. Biblioworm 20:08, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Williams (DJ)

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I came across this article as an A7 and the claims in the article are just enough for it to squeak by speedy criteria but do not seem to hold up over the larger requirements per WP:NBIO. Williams does work for iHeartRadio and I can see where he's mentioned in some news sources, but I can't really see where he's independently notable outside of the company. I'd redirect, but I don't think that it'd be a viable redirect in this case, since there's no mention of him in the main company article nor is there really a good place to insert him, as we don't list every employee of a company. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tokyogirl179, thanks for the explanation so that we can maybe address it. We are digging up more articles for Chris Williams. He has been a DJ for over a decade on some very big radio stations. Hopefully some past articles will help with it. I'll see about getting him included on the iHeart page as well. Thanks again! Kazmandu2 (talk) 06:30, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hold up on adding him to the iHeart page. The problem with doing something like that is that Wikipedia is not an employee listing for everyone that has worked for a company - especially if the company is especially large. Usually the only ones who get added are the top-top people, like the CEO, that run the entire company. Williams is in charge of a branch of the company but this doesn't automatically mean that he should be listed on the main article. The general rule of thumb is that after the CEO, the others should only be added if they're notable enough for their own articles. Right now your main concern should be trying to find coverage that focuses specifically on Williams and shows how he's independently notable. Also, I get the strong impression that you have a conflict of interest given the tone of some of your articles like this one. Per COI, you must disclose any conflict of interest you may have. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:22, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know him at all, no COI. And, he isn't just an employee of a company, like, a secretary. He was the DJ, the voice of the company, has a large fanbase, etc... I think that the reason for Wikipedia is to record the important people involved with a known organization and he is definitely that. Wouldn't that be notable enough even as just an individual. His position in the company at iHeart is just focusing on his recent job history. Let me know your thoughts. I would like to see his page stand. Kazmandu2 (talk) 08:31, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to continue this on your user talk page. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also, iHeartMusic has many DJs. In order to show notability for him as a performer or in any format, you need to show coverage in independent and reliable sources. Brief mentions where he is making a statement on behalf of the company does not count, which seems to be the majority of hits that I received. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:49, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:53, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Lacks adequate support to establish WP:N. reddogsix (talk) 19:01, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Williams is mentioned on the 99x radio station page if that helps? 2602:30A:2CF0:90:492F:4F51:A343:4DBF (talk) 02:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you are Kazmandu2, then please be aware that this is considered to be block evasion. I've blocked that user because it was very, very obvious that they were a paid editor (because their edits were very promotional and they'd uploaded a logo for the marketing company at WC as their own work, fair use) and were likely related to a marketing company they'd tried to write about at WP:AfC. They also had issues with their account potentially being a shared account. If you are a seperate editor, please be aware that the same requirements of WP:COI remain and you MUST disclose any conflict of interest. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
SPI has been opened here. This is pretty much a "what not to do if you own a PR company" situation. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Notability is marginal; the most significant mention is in a product article.[1]. In the presence of heavy COI editing, it is appropriate to interpret the notability criteria strictly. John Nagle (talk) 07:18, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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