Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Todd (American football)

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The result was no consensus. No clear consensus for deletion. Strong arguments against deletion. (non-admin closure) BusterD (talk) 23:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Todd (American football)

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Article fails to meet notability guidelines WP:NCOLLATH NThomas (talk) 05:11, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 05:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 05:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - as mentioned, does not meet criteria for inclusion as an athlete Bella the Ball (talk) 11:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable college athlete. — X96lee15 (talk) 12:37, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator. cmadler (talk) 16:01, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He passes both WP:NCOLLATH and WP:GNG. He passes the former based on having "gained national media attention as an individual," including stories about him at ESPN.com and NBC Sports. Several examples of the "national media attention" have now been added to the article. He passes the GNG standard due to truly extensive and non-trivial coverage in multiple independent sources about his college football career as a record-setting starting quarterback at Auburn. He set all-time Auburn records for most passing touchdowns in a season and longest pass from scrimmage. A google news archive search here turns up over 2,000 articles about his college football career, including many that are specifically focused on him. Cbl62 (talk) 22:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes WP:N. Joe Chill (talk) 22:28, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Subject of article is just receiving routine coverage that any Division I QB receives. In this case, I think he has to receive at the minimum all-league first team honors or all-American honors, which he has not (as far as the article currently says). — X96lee15 (talk) 23:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There is no "minimum" for an all-league first team to according to WP:NCOLLATH, conference awards are not national awards. First team All-Americans are another story, but the way WP:NCOLLATH is now, All-Americans still wont pass WP:NCOLLATH #1. NThomas (talk) 23:48, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - It is well established that college football players may have articles if they pass either WP:NCOLLATH or WP:GNG. In this case, he passes both. National media attention qualifies him under WP:NCOLLATH #3, and the totality of the news coverage (2,000+ articles, including many feature stories about him) gets him past GNG as well. Some college athletes are tough calls, but this one is easy if people are really following the guidelines. 00:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Keep: Passes WP:N. --otduff ^t/_c 09:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.