Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris "Daddy Mac" Smith

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The result was merge to Kris Kross. .. and redirect per WP:ATD: Noting that that was one !vote in favor of deletion, while all others- including both a keep and the nominator themselves also acknowledge the possibility of merging and redirecting. ~~Which, incidentally, doesn't need an AfD in the first place!~~ -striking per User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi#AfD of Chris "Mac Daddy" Smith; AfD was, after all, the correct venue for requesting community input to a disputed redirect. (non-admin closure) — fortunavelut luna 08:49, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chris "Daddy Mac" Smith[edit]

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Subject was in a notable band 25 years ago. But as an individual outside of that band, he fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:CREATIVE. The only vaguely reliable source I can find is the one in the UK tabloid newspaper The Sun which is already referenced in the article – even this only mentions his post-Kris Kross life in passing, and any reference to his One Life Entertainment and Urbane Muse companies could easily be included in a single line in the Kris Kross article. All other references found online are primary sources, including the two images used in the article, which are taken from the Urbane Muse website. Article creator is a WP:SPA who has only edited this article and the Kris Kross article, and has already had a previous version of this article, Chris smith of kris kross, deleted from Wikipedia. Suggest this article be redirected to Kris Kross. Richard3120 (talk) 12:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 11:02, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 11:03, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep I suspect that the subject should be notable, but the article doesn't reflect that. I ran the "find sources", but that didn't help (with the quotes in the name). I did find some tabloid hits (TMZ and The Sun) near the top, but further down: https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.23788/title.dj-nabs-believes-chris-daddy-mac-smith-will-not-react-publicly-to-death-of-chris-mac-daddy-kelly http://www.sfchronicle.com/music/article/Kris-Kross-and-Jermaine-Dupri-10872739.php http://buzz.blog.ajc.com/2017/03/23/jermaine-dupri-concert-launch-event-showcases-social-medias-power/ and a few others. The article needs to be improved (and the promotional cruft removed), but I would think a brief biography on the subject is merited. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- But I wouldn't complain if it were merged to the duo's article. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem to me that all three of those references are related to Kris Kross, rather than anything Chris Smith has done outside the group, except as very brief passing mentions ("works as an artist"). Richard3120 (talk) 17:50, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not notable indepdently of the musicial group he was a part of.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:42, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:00, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:45, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge & redirect to Kriss Kross per WP:ATD-R. Entirely useful redirect as an autocomplete term in the search box. I too am surprised that there aren't extant sources to support an article but I guess that's the problem with having your fifteen minutes of fame before the internet age. A Train^talk 21:55, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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